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[ScottWolf]

37 minutes ago, Alaisiagae said:

@fredk Where do you get white carnuba wax flakes? I've been searching google and amazon all day, and all I can find are the yellow flakes.

Organic T1 grade carnauba wax is a pale yellow. The color is immaterial to its performance. I use this exact product in a leather conditioner I make. I add small amounts of it to the beeswax and other ingredients in the conditioner in order to make it hard.  

[ScottWolf]

41 minutes ago, Alaisiagae said:

@fredk Where do you get white carnuba wax flakes? I've been searching google and amazon all day, and all I can find are the yellow flakes.

Organic T1 grade carnauba wax is a pale yellow. The color is immaterial to its performance. I use this exact product in a leather conditioner I make. I add small amounts of it to the beeswax and other ingredients in the conditioner in order to make it hard.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Carnauba-Wax-Flakes-Organic-Leather/dp/B07CLCGJPM/ref=pd_ybh_a_137?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=AM0XMZ9P52DSPWTSV65B

Edited August 12, 2020 by ScottWolf

[Alaisiagae]

Thanks, @ScottWolf. What are your thoughts on white beeswax vs. yellow beeswax? Will the yellow color tint the leather, or not really?

[ScottWolf]

1 minute ago, Alaisiagae said:

Thanks, @ScottWolf. What are your thoughts on white beeswax vs. yellow beeswax? Will the yellow color tint the leather, or not really?

NO, not in my experience. The end product may look yellowish, but that color isn't transferred to the leather.

[battlemunky]

10 minutes ago, Alaisiagae said:

Thanks, @ScottWolf. What are your thoughts on white beeswax vs. yellow beeswax? Will the yellow color tint the leather, or not really?

I know I'm not @ScottWolf but I've used both and don't notice a difference on the leather. It all darkens up the same in my experience.

4 hours ago, Affaltar said:

I made the mix as you said, I saw there are many bee keepers locally so I asked my colleague can he recommend one and he told me the guy standing next to him is a beekeeper :D 
He didn't have the fancy pure one on hand, but I got a nice chunk of regular one.

I asked the italian supplier and I was told it's just 100% wax, synthetic, specially for veg tanned leather.

When I rubbed it in some of the dye came off, I like it, but the end user doesn't, so what to do now to have it completely black again? 
 

That's a little weird to be losing that much dye...what kind are you using? You may be a bit hosed depending on how well the wax took to the leather, it'll keep almost anything from penetrating the leather at this point.

Edited August 12, 2020 by battlemunky
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[johnv474]

Of what OP had on hand I would use the neatsfoot oil and then the carnauba cream.  Both are excellent.

For the dye that came off, you may have some trouble applying more dye but you can try it.  Or, you can use Fiebings Leather Balm with Atom Wax in Black.  (It is available in black and neutral).  Use it very sparingly and let it dry for 30 minutes, then buff.  Then repeat.

Or, you can buy cream polish (usually sold for shoes).  Tarrago shoe cream is good, Kelly Shoe Cream is very good, Saphir shoe cream is excellent.  Buy some black and apply a lighrt coat, let it dry, then buff to a sheen.  Then, repeat.  If desired you can follow that up with shoe polish--too very light coats.  Let the polish dry for 20 minutes to an hour, then buff with a soft cloth or horsehair brush.  I like Lincoln brand shoe polish, then Saphir, then Kelly shoe polish, then Kiwi.  Some people swear by Kiwi.

After a good buffing, I wojld sral with two light coats of diluted Resolene.  It'll be gooooood and black by then.

Gum Trag will keep more dye from soaking into edge (slow it down, I should say), but you should still be able to get a good, deep black if you follow the above steps.

[Affaltar]

I tried to use my dye on one of the pieces and it just sits on top

Would black shoe polish dry enough not to stain the user later?

[ScottWolf]

8 minutes ago, Affaltar said:

I tried to use my dye on one of the pieces and it just sits on top

Would black shoe polish dry enough not to stain the user later?

 I can tell you from experience, that black shoe polish isn't what you want to use if its pigmentation you are trying to add. You can use black shoe CREAM (not polish) as mentioned above for minor pigmentation additions. Using shoe polish to try and darken that wallet will leave you with a wallet that bleeds black stains on everything it touches. There is actually a recent thread where the person used black shoe polish on a purse to try and even the color out and is having this very issue. 

if you attempt to re0dye it, you will need to use a soap cleaner on it and scrub it to remove any product that would prevent the dye from penetrating. Otherwise it will just continue to pool and sit on top as you've already experienced. 

 

[Affaltar]

I washed it with soap and then redyed it, and I like the colour now

Now the problem is that it's too stiff xD Is there anything I can do about that?

 

[Alaisiagae]

Maybe try a little neatsfoot oil? Is it 100% pure neatsfoot oil, or neatsfoot oil compound?