CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Danne said: For me I don't agree. I often need very good precision, down to around 0.5mm and a lot of parts with almost the same dimensions and a difference between 0.5-1mm for trimming or a construction for a slim design. It would take me a lot of time making these with pen and paper. On the computer I can start drawing and I can make small changes. I can make a revision after I made my first wallet/watch strap. If I need to make another length of the same watch strap or add a pocket to a wallet it take me minutes instead of hours. Here is an example. Making a 22-20 strap in a different length of this strap would take me like 10 minutes, It would take me A LOT of time doing it with a paper and pen. it would take me seconds to cut my pattern at one of the straight sections and lengthen it with another piece of pattern paper, scan it and save it so i could reprint if needed.. A pocket is a pocket you just make two instead of one with your pattern. The point i was making is that after you have your pattern the money you have spent is just setting there, you dont have to redesign every time you make a watch band. But if you have the dough to blow then go for it Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members DJole Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 Luddites... Seriously, though, I use BOTH methods-- digital and analog -- to make templates. and projects. Sometimes, it's just fun to play with the tools! Quote \D. Jole \ --> <http://djole.altervista.org/djole/Publications/Leather/Lindex.htm>
Members jcuk Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 Hi I have been following this thread with interest. Why such a hard time if that is his process for working? I am old school with pencil and paper, but i have also recently downloaded some PDF templates for some items out of my comfort zone which were created with software. I can understand that some of the software is expensive but i am informed by my better half (who works in IT) that you don't have to use expensive Adobe software which is also not so easy to use. She says to look at Inscape https://inkcape.org which is free, and there is lots of help online with how to use it, and there are versions for all operating systems. Hope this helps JCUK Quote
CFM Frodo Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Here is my soft wear and my hardware Edited September 24, 2020 by Frodo Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members Danne Posted September 24, 2020 Author Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Ok, so I just clarify, I never had and never will have any intention to say that using a pencil and paper to make templates are not a good option for making templates. For me software is the only solution I prefer, and some who read here agree with me, some would never use software for drawings, other will use both paper/pencil and software. And regarding time to learn a new software for drawings like this is something that is quick for me (No I don't say I learn a software like Autocad quick, but I learn the tools needed for making templates for leather goods quick.) I have full respect for whatever methods other people use, since my main interest in this craft is doing custom things, software is a very good solution for me, because for me it's quick to make drawings and add that pocket and make sure stitching lengths are correct. For someone else it can be quicker to use a paper and pencil, everyone is free to choose what they wan't. This thread was not posted to convince people to start using cad-software. I just shared. Edited September 24, 2020 by Danne Quote
Members Tugadude Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 Can we not turn this into a contentious discussion? I get enough of that elsewhere. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Danne said: Ok, so I just clarify, I never had and never will have any intention to say that using a pencil and paper to make templates are not a good option for making templates. For me software is the only solution I prefer, and some who read here agree with me, some would never use software for drawings, other will use both paper/pencil and software. And regarding time to learn a new software for drawings like this is something that is quick for me (No I don't say I learn a software like Autocad quick, but I learn the tools needed for making templates for leather goods quick.) I have full respect for whatever methods other people use, since my main interest in this craft is doing custom things, software is a very good solution for me, because for me it's quick to make drawings and add that pocket and make sure stitching lengths are correct. For someone else it can be quicker to use a paper and pencil, everyone is free to choose what they wan't. This thread was not posted to convince people to start using cad-software. I just shared. i feel the same friend and meant no disrespect. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM Frodo Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Danne said: Ok, so I just clarify, I never had and never will have any intention to say that using a pencil and paper to make templates are not a good option for making templates. For me software is the only solution I prefer, and some who read here agree with me, some would never use software for drawings, other will use both paper/pencil and software. And regarding time to learn a new software for drawings like this is something that is quick for me (No I don't say I learn a software like Autocad quick, but I learn the tools needed for making templates for leather goods quick.) I have full respect for whatever methods other people use, since my main interest in this craft is doing custom things, software is a very good solution for me, because for me it's quick to make drawings and add that pocket and make sure stitching lengths are correct. For someone else it can be quicker to use a paper and pencil, everyone is free to choose what they wan't. This thread was not posted to convince people to start using cad-software. I just shared. I mean no disrespect. I used the laughy thing [ ] in my answer. internet protocol is that by using a laughy thingy your post is non confrontational but it is a joke Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM Frodo Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 To be honest. The only reason i do not like it is because i cant afford it If i could afford one i would want a CnC machine and the software to run it Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members Danne Posted September 25, 2020 Author Members Report Posted September 25, 2020 9 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: i feel the same friend and meant no disrespect. 9 hours ago, Frodo said: I mean no disrespect. I used the laughy thing [ ] in my answer. internet protocol is that by using a laughy thingy your post is non confrontational but it is a joke I was looking for the like button It can sometimes be easy to misinterpret each other in text, especially for me when English is not my native language. But I have always liked this forum, because most people here are actually nice to each other. People having different opinions about things isn't bad. And regarding drawing on paper, I think I will get some more rulers, like curved rulers and such, because even though I don't use paper drawings for my final drawings, when I think about it, it can be a very good way to come up with new designs Quote
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