binder question

[nylonRigging]

1 hour ago, Uwe said:

There’s more to the binding story, especially more parts. Here’s the full set of parts I got to make this tape folder work on a 441 class machine. I’ll make a separate topic once I’ve had a chance to try it out. This photo is just... to illustrate that it takes more than just a tape folder to do binding on certain machines. 

 

What Uwe is saying . looks like a Binder for floating on cylinder bed . Flatbed set-up is a different animal , but No reason why you cant put together a Binder to do what you want on a Flatbed if that what machine you going for, and material you edge binding .

But..  ( All I know, is what I do ) , and for advice, all related mostly to the materials/items I design, sew and sell, doing the same sewing for quit some time . My personal Binding knowledge is deep, but narrow niche . All my sew/Binding knowledge is tuned around set-ups on the Flatbed, and for single and double needle, and I personally prefer ( Needle Feeds ), with usually using different 3/4" to 1" width Binding .
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I put this Pic. up here once (for an example ) for slide-plate mounts with binders sometime back . This Pic. is flat bed, right angle, R-side slide-plate mount for double needle. That thick heavy binder throat in the Pic. , I had Tenn. attachment solder up . But I put adjustments in the swing arm for some height and angle . Also 3/32"  raised Dog and Throat plate work with the Binder for added adjustment .
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[DonInReno]

Uwe sorry this is so off topic, but when this was found it made me chuckle.....

On a picking adventure to an obscure little town, at a little old ladies part time upholstery shop, wedged in the drawer of an unused sewing table was an operating instruction manual and on the back cover there you were!   I think that makes you officially famous. Lol

[Uwe]

@DonInReno thanks for sharing! I’ll try not to let all that fame go to my head 

[kgg]

On 1/30/2021 at 9:04 PM, keithski122 said:

Just for information binder has throat of 9mm material thickness, with binding material size of 26mm (1 inch) 1.8mm thickness.

Why not just purchase the standard flatbed binding attachments that are readily available and inexpensive (around $15.00 or less). Also they will help in reducing the drag which I figure is also contributing your binding material being stretched. Any time something makes a 90 degree bend you increase the pull/stress required. On a sewing machine this puts additional stresses on the pressor foot/ needle feed / feed dog mechanisms. Also adding a horizontal binding spool arrangement with bearings, as Wiz suggested, will drastically reduce those stresses and provide a more even dispensing of the binding material off the spool. All my machines (flatbed or cylinder) use the horizontal bearing spool arrangement. The only difference is I use the standard el cheapo binding attachments made for the flatbeds on my cylinder machine. That way I don't have to have one style of attachments dedicated for the flatbeds and one style dedicated for the cylinder machines.

Something to consider,

kgg