Techsew 5100 Binding attachment?

[kgg]

1 hour ago, TonyGreen3455 said:

that's it! 
it's wat I need to be done first - put a binder in-line
many thanks for sharing, inner mechanic got a point

Let us know what the inner mechanic comes up with. The Adler 669 looks like it got a lot of potential attachment points to mount things to.

kgg

[JollyDodgerCanvas]

On 6/14/2022 at 10:03 PM, nylonRigging said:

This particular 441 KH Binder that I set-up . I only have run about 250 yard of binding threw it so far, but overall I am pretty pleased with their hardware design .

Setting up Binders is always a small pain in ass and eats up many hours of your time till you get it all smooth and GTG . Every guy out there that been sewing for years has their own techniques for Binder set-up and personal built techniques for Binding.
Ok lets start here .
how did you set-up your binder and swing arm ? , your binder set-up is going to make or break the finished outcome. also synchronized binder is not as easy as ( for example )  a Needle-feed . Unison Feed, you need to witness the feet movement with the swing-arm, but try to get the binder head slotted-in as close as you can .

here a pic of what I usually do .. trim feet to get binder head in . I found their Foot in the set-up was really not what I prefer, so just grid/trimmed and Modified a stock Foot .
& Also DON'T Ask ??? why . .. but this model KH binder set-up has NO push-bar at exit of the throat . it's pretty ridiculous that they did not, as you Very Much Need tracking of the binding material exiting the throat of held firm as you feed materials against it .
..but for the Good price of the whole set-up they offer .. I DID NOT Bitch to much about the it at all....LOL

So I, Drill & Tap a small piece of angle then trimmed to work with the synchronized movement . I put a Red Arrow to show the piece of material push bar .
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and this, the 1st Item tried binding on the new Binder Set-Up .

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I took a look at some of my other binders and they do have that "tab" running past the edge of the binder outfeed. Strange how KH didn't include that. I'm using the KH binding feet, they seem to get the back of the binder touching the center foot so seem OK. Is that outfeed tab what would enable me to do curved work easier?

[nylonRigging]

10 hours ago, kgg said:

Really nice edging in your photo's.

This was my solution for my KOBE LS-1341. This was done with no changes to the feed dog or presser feet. The binder was an inexpensive in line using a swing away binder bracket. This may spark your inner mechanic.

kgg

 

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Did you prefab. that plastic routing for the binding material  ? that looks pretty slick and clean .

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[nylonRigging]

5 hours ago, JollyDodgerCanvas said:

I took a look at some of my other binders and they do have that "tab" running past the edge of the binder outfeed. Strange how KH didn't include that. I'm using the KH binding feet, they seem to get the back of the binder touching the center foot so seem OK. Is that outfeed tab what would enable me to do curved work easier?

Yes, for feeding materials it helps make sure that the binding's inside-outer edge is always consistently full and flush with the materials you feeding into it . It just one of those things that helps . ( my opinion ) you want push-tab to be at least as long, so matching where the machines Needle plunging stroke is .

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[kgg]

3 hours ago, nylonRigging said:

Did you prefab. that plastic routing for the binding material  ? that looks pretty slick and clean .

Thank you. All my gadgets (Warlock Designs) are 3D printed and I only utilize the existing factory screw / bolt hole locations. The routing of the binding material has since been refined since that photo to accommodate those small runs of left over binding material material or homemade binding material where you only need / have about 30' feet of binding tape.

The newer version is basically a bobbin cup with an outside guide that can be used for binding material coming off large spools, small lengths and can also be table mounted for use with either domestic or industrial tables. The cup will hold binding tape up to about 2 1/2" wide. The revised version allows me to wind the binding bobbin which sits inside the cup from any winder (domestic or industrial) and I am able to use it on any of my machines (LSZ, 1181n, 1541,1341). The photo is of the bobbin cup being used in a table top arrangement on a little table for a portable walking foot machine that also has a drop down roller edge guide. I think that portable walking foot machine is the only one that has that type of guide.

The head attachment is also pretty versatile as it will accept other attachments like a long straight guides, folders, etc.

 

[nylonRigging]

The little flat plate bed, that looks to make a slick little work platform . Nice job.
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[kgg]

23 minutes ago, nylonRigging said:

The little flat plate bed, that looks to make a slick little work platform . Nice job.

Thank you.

kgg

 

[Rob2613]

Hello, I realise this is an old post, but I hope it is still active.

I recently bought a Cowboy 4500, and I would (also) like to use it for edge binding. 

The Hightex dealer in Germany sells this moving binder for Hightex/Cowboy 4500 sewing machines.

Does anyone here have any experience with this type of moving binder? Any information is greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Rob (Netherlands)

 

[Constabulary]

A IMO more important question is to ask if he can provide a binder attachment that suits the bindings material you want to use. I guess you want to use a leather tape for biding edges. So the thickness and width of the biding material matters as well as the thickness of the edges you want to bind.

Edited March 14, 2024 by Constabulary

[Rob2613]

@Constabulary: thank you for your reply. I am only sewing tactical and outdoor gear using Cordura fabric and nylon webbing. I want to be able to do edge binding on the inside of bags, and on the edges of K9-collars with nylon binding tape. Ideally I would like to be able to use various right angle binders, depending on the thickness of the project. I am curious if there is a way to use my sewing machine for normal sewing and edge binding without canging the needle plate and feed dog…