5-15 mm leather thickness

[kgg]

 

1 hour ago, Rickard said:

they have several different Juki machines like Juki LS 1341 , Juki 245 and Juki 441

I would put the Juki DSC 245 in the 335 class machine capable of handling V92 thread with a 135x17 #20 needle, the Juki LS 1341 would do 10mm but I think would be at or near max and can handle V138 with a 135x17 #24 needle while the 441 would easily handle 10 mm can handle V92 to V415 with a 794 needle, this is what the clones have copied for the thick stuff.

just my take,

kgg

[Wizcrafts]

2 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

PM me your address details cause I reckon you should have a set Wiz.

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[Wizcrafts]

2 hours ago, Rickard said:

I think i read here some place that Juki 441 are mostly set for fabric/heavy canvas and not for sewing leather?

In a way you are both right and wrong. Juki themselves market the TSC-441 as a machine to sew buffing wheels and other thick materials, as well as horse blankets and saddles. The standard presser and alternating foot set have teeth on the bottom to grip cloth. All you have to do to convert it into a leather sewer is to buy a set of smooth harness maker's feet and a smooth feed dog, which are standard equipment on 441 clones in the US, Canada and Australia. My CB4500 came with the so-called "blanket" feet in the drawer in case I need to patch a horse blanket, or sew denim garments.

[Handstitched]

7 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

My CB4500 came with the so-called "blanket" feet in the drawer in case I need to patch a horse blanket, or sew denim

Yep, same here, must be a ' standard thing' to supply that bit,   can't say I've ever used it ever since I've had the machine, its also  in the drawer. My machine sews 99.9%  leather, and .1% other materials like  heavy webbing, heavy bits 'n' bobs  on horse rugs  etc.    My Seiko STW   & Pfaff 60 quite happily sews  the rest. 

HS

 

[Rickard]

13 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

Juki is a great brand and many other brands clone them as best they can. The Cowboy 4500 and many others are clones of this machine. The Cowboy CB 6900 (1341 in the USA I think is a clone of ......the Juki LS 1341 and will handle work up to 10mm very well. This is a video I did on one a couple of weeks back. There are several other ones showing some light stitching as well if you check my you tube channel. 

 

I think i go for the used Juki LS 1341. There are a Juki service store in my town that i can call if a repear is needed. A new one are in price range proxamently 3650-3800 USD compered to the used one i faund in UK  prox. 2000 USD. 
 

here is the machine on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174759267083?hash=item28b076cb0b:g:ENMAAOSw9Wlg1bq4

what do you  think about the specs?

[kgg]

13 minutes ago, Rickard said:

here is the machine on ebay

The pictures do look good but buying equipment off Ebay particularly in that price range for me would be just too risky. Since there is a Juki repair shop close to you I would first check and see if they have a refurnished machine like the Juki LS 1341 or an older LS 341. That way you eliminate potential shipping damage problems, spams, worn out, problems, etc. They may also have similar class new or used clones available. Also you would be able to test drive one with what you want to sew before buying.

kgg

[RockyAussie]

11 hours ago, Rickard said:

I think i go for the used Juki LS 1341. There are a Juki service store in my town that i can call if a repear is needed. A new one are in price range proxamently 3650-3800 USD compered to the used one i faund in UK  prox. 2000 USD. 
 

here is the machine on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174759267083?hash=item28b076cb0b:g:ENMAAOSw9Wlg1bq4

what do you  think about the specs?

The machine looks good and having a needle positioner is a good plus but....the table is not good. Keep in mind that you will often want room to spin the job around and with the table shown you have no room to do that. Even the cut out tables are often no good either and you may be better to have a full open table instead. I have to do a table change on my CB6900 this week and show you some pics when I do it.

[Rickard]

Thanks alot for your help folks, it really means alot to me. The juki shop in my hometown only offer new machinery am afraid and used ones dont float around other places here either. If i go for the one in UK i will use paypal and mastercard  so i will be covered if somthing goes wrong. Freight can be risky but most often it turns out well. I ordered i Juki 8700H from Poland last winter, tok only 5 days and all good. 

[Rickard]

2 minutes ago, RockyAussie said:

The machine looks good and having a needle positioner is a good plus but....the table is not good. Keep in mind that you will often want room to spin the job around and with the table shown you have no room to do that. Even the cut out tables are often no good either and you may be better to have a full open table instead. I have to do a table change on my CB6900 this week and show you some pics when I do it.

Yes the table, good point. Im thinking if i can get my hands in the mashine i can probbably order i new table from somwhere. I dont think the tables are so terrible expensive but i have to take a loock around.

[RockyAussie]

Here is another video I just loaded that shows what can be done with the bigger Cowboy CB4500 or CB3500 with a narrow needle plate and dog foot installed. These machines can do near double the thickness of the other machine but do have a bit bigger end to get around if you need to get small stuff done.