CFM chuck123wapati Posted April 13, 2023 CFM Report Posted April 13, 2023 On 11/5/2021 at 10:27 AM, HughMungis said: I got to thinking about this and figured I'd ask some people with more of a technical background. I called up a few universities and here are the ones that couldn't give me an answer: University of Kansas Wyoming University South Dakota State University University of Nebraska Cornell Stanford Johns Hopkins MIT haha I literally called all of their departments of biology with this question and none of them had an answer. I'll update the list as I keep trying different states. I'm starting to think that nobody knows because nobody's actually tried different methods of doing it. I think what I'm going to do is cut this spare deer hide I have in to strips and test out different mixtures to see what happens. Why do people think leather hasn't been studied to death???? Humans have been using it longer than science itself. lol so much for " people with more of a technical background" knowing shit about anything i guess none of those Brainiac's prolly know about these. https://archive.org/details/pub_american-leather-chemists-association-journal We've done a half dozen hides since this post. Some things are as easy as they are ever going to get on a small scale project and there's a time when you just have to accept that, roll up your sleeves and work hard. Don't worry though its actually good for you. 22 hours ago, HughMungis said: Advanced Tanning Solutions sells something called "Enzymol" that works a little too well. It's not listed anywhere on their website but if you email or call them they'll help you out. I let one of my bison hides soak in a barrel of it for a bit too long and I was accidentally ripping this gigantic grain leather with my bare hands. If you order some, the directions they send with shouldn't be thrown away lol. Thank you i appreciate that information but NO, I'll pass i couldn't find any info anywhere on that product. I'm not chancing ruining a hide I've got so much work into already. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Bert03241 Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 Ok I no nothing about this subject. But it looks like you want to make the hide soft and you do this by working the hide back and forth over something. So here's a stupid Ideawhat if you threw the hide into a tumbler with some smooth stones and let it tumble for a while. Like I said I know nothing and it was just a crazy idea that popped into my head Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 That would have to be one heck of a big tumbler, Bert! I could see maybe giving a try with a clothes dryer, but it would likely wreck the dryer, and the missus would have your head for it! I use some plastic balls with spikes on them to soften clothes in my dryer as I hate chemical softeners. They work just fine. You could be onto something, though you'd have to find an old dryer someone had thrown out and get it working. Maybe one that's got the heating coil burned out, but the tumbler still works? Quote
Members Bert03241 Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 how bout an old cement mixer, maybe remove the paddles or not Quote
Members ID45 Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 back in the 90s I did a lot of tanning using "bark tan" and pickling crystals from Van Dykes Taxidermy Supply I tanned several coyotes and bobcats fur on with great results also deer and even cow hides into leather - buckskin with ok results I still use the buckskin for lining leather, the cow hides came out too soft for most leather work but not as soft as a buffalo robe Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bert03241 said: how bout an old cement mixer, maybe remove the paddles or not Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted April 13, 2023 CFM Report Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Bert03241 said: Ok I no nothing about this subject. But it looks like you want to make the hide soft and you do this by working the hide back and forth over something. So here's a stupid Ideawhat if you threw the hide into a tumbler with some smooth stones and let it tumble for a while. Like I said I know nothing and it was just a crazy idea that popped into my head they do tumble hides to break them but the size of drum you need makes it all but impossible for a hobbyist type tanning setup. they have to be huge.so the hides don't ball up. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Contributing Member fredk Posted April 13, 2023 Contributing Member Report Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Bert03241 said: how bout an old cement mixer, maybe remove the paddles or not 1 hour ago, chuck123wapati said: they do tumble hides to break them but the size of drum you need makes it all but impossible for a hobbyist type tanning setup. they have to be huge.so the hides don't ball up. one of dem dare huge ready-mixed seeement deeeelivery trucks type drum? Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Sheilajeanne Posted April 13, 2023 Members Report Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: they do tumble hides to break them but the size of drum you need makes it all but impossible for a hobbyist type tanning setup. they have to be huge.so the hides don't ball up Ookay, so not such a crazy idea after all! Interesting to know it does work, if not for a hobbyist. Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted April 14, 2023 Contributing Member Report Posted April 14, 2023 Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
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