kennh Report post Posted January 30, 2022 I have an opportunity to buy an older Juki LS-341N with table and Servo motor for $1200. The machine is in excellent condition used by a hobbyist. My question is should I get the Juki or buy one of the 341 clones out there? Seems like I can get a clone for about $1600 which would be a brand new machine. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrmCa Report post Posted January 30, 2022 IMO if Juki is really in excellent condition than you might as well save $400. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennh Report post Posted January 30, 2022 Just wondering if the Juki is higher quality than the clones even if it’s a lot older Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeatherLegion Report post Posted January 31, 2022 I have a Nakajima 341 in good condition, never abused and it runs smother than the Cobra class 26 or the Techsew 2750 i had a chance to play with . I would go with the Juki even at $1600 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted January 31, 2022 7 hours ago, kennh said: My question is should I get the Juki or buy one of the 341 clones out there? I wouldn't hesitate to take a good used Juki over a new clone. Most of the new clones in this class are of the older Juki LS-341 even though some even call their clone a LS-1341 but in reality??? Photo of Juki LS-341: http://www.nickosew.com/details.php?id=508 Photo of Juki LS-1341: https://sewinggold.com/product/juki-ls-1341s/ Buying a brand name like Juki down the road will be a better investment, parts and accessories are readily available, resale is higher and it is easier to sell when you want / need to. Juki parts are guaranteed to fit Juki machines. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennh Report post Posted January 31, 2022 The Juki I’m looking at is not White it’s more kind of a Greenish Grey and doesn’t have the large bobbin. Must be older than a White one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted January 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, kennh said: The Juki I’m looking at is not White it’s more kind of a Greenish Grey Sounds like an older one. Like with any used machine you have to go over the machine visually for sighs of worn out parts or poor maintenance as well as listening / feeling for rough operation. Also in the older ones don't forget to check the timing belt as it maybe worn out or dry rotted. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennh Report post Posted January 31, 2022 I will ck all that out. It looks like this picture Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted January 31, 2022 16 hours ago, kennh said: The machine is in excellent condition used by a hobbyist. Another thing to check is the history of the machine. Was this a one owner hobbyist machine, how long has that person owned the machine, why are they selling it and was it a machine that was used in a factory environment at some point. I am wary of machines, no matter of what brand they are, that have been used in a factory type setting as they are usually run hard, put away wet and disposed of when about to require repairs. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennh Report post Posted January 31, 2022 Checked all that and just hobby person owner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 10:16 PM, LeatherLegion said: I have a Nakajima 341 in good condition, never abused and it runs smother than the Cobra class 26 or the Techsew 2750 i had a chance to play with . I would go with the Juki even at $1600 Juki bought out Nakajima some years ago and carried on the 341, 441, and a bunch of other models. Their engineers went thru and tweaked each model to improve it. some kept the same model number, some had brand new model numbers on them. Nakajima still better than the clones of today. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites