Members Treesner Posted February 2, 2022 Members Report Posted February 2, 2022 anyone know of an arbor press with higher clearance than normal? I dont really need something much stronger than 1/2-1ton as I'd like to use one of these magnetic chucks to hold different leather tools/stamps https://www.mathews-engineering.com/store/p15/Arbor_Press_Magnetic_Pin_Press_1%2F2"_Chuck_Tool.html it seems like the 2 ton presses might be tall enough to accept the chuck and the tool but they are more money/larger/heavier so wondering if you know of another option Quote
Members Dwight Posted February 2, 2022 Members Report Posted February 2, 2022 It depends on what kind of pressure you are looking for there . . . but if it is just stamping pressure for stamping leather . . . you should be able to use something like a 4 inch air cylinder . . . mount the magnetic chuck to it . . . build an angle iron box to sit it in . . . you could make it any height you want. Push the down air button . . . the stamp comes down . . . up button sends it back up . . . regulate the pressure to get the stamping depth you want. I use one I built to cut out leather key fobs . . . it's a bit hokey in one respect . . . but the end product is well worth my expense and effort I went to. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
toxo Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Treesner said: anyone know of an arbor press with higher clearance than normal? I dont really need something much stronger than 1/2-1ton as I'd like to use one of these magnetic chucks to hold different leather tools/stamps https://www.mathews-engineering.com/store/p15/Arbor_Press_Magnetic_Pin_Press_1%2F2"_Chuck_Tool.html it seems like the 2 ton presses might be tall enough to accept the chuck and the tool but they are more money/larger/heavier so wondering if you know of another option Most arbor presses are geared all the way from top to bottom of the ram. You just have to undo the side piece, pull out the side with the bar on it and raise the clearance before putting it together again. Quicker to do it than write it. On mine the left hand side is always off so I can raise/lower as required. Quote
Members Treesner Posted February 2, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Dwight said: It depends on what kind of pressure you are looking for there . . . but if it is just stamping pressure for stamping leather . . . you should be able to use something like a 4 inch air cylinder . . . mount the magnetic chuck to it . . . build an angle iron box to sit it in . . . you could make it any height you want. Push the down air button . . . the stamp comes down . . . up button sends it back up . . . regulate the pressure to get the stamping depth you want. I use one I built to cut out leather key fobs . . . it's a bit hokey in one respect . . . but the end product is well worth my expense and effort I went to. May God bless, Dwight I think I would be cutting strap ends, cutting slots and hole and stamping logos. don't have compressed air in the leather area but interesting solution 1 hour ago, toxo said: Most arbor presses are geared all the way from top to bottom of the ram. You just have to undo the side piece, pull out the side with the bar on it and raise the clearance before putting it together again. Quicker to do it than write it. On mine the left hand side is always off so I can raise/lower as required. do you have a photo I don't follow Quote
Members Treesner Posted February 3, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 3, 2022 the guy who makes the chuck recommends this press but its a 3 ton so pretty expensive Baileigh press brakes are very nice and an excellent bang for the buck with lots of room under the ram: https://www.baileigh.com/metalworking/presses/arbor-press Here's a demo video of the 1/2" chuck tool used in a Baileigh AP-3R 3-ton arbor press: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNE9S-ZjOW4 also for reference The 1/2" chuck with the magnetic back plate is 2.9" high Quote
Members Dwight Posted February 3, 2022 Members Report Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Treesner said: Here's a demo video of the 1/2" chuck tool used in a Baileigh AP-3R 3-ton arbor press: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNE9S-ZjOW4 also for reference The 1/2" chuck with the magnetic back plate is 2.9" high In the demo video . . . he was using a punch to make holes in a piece of aluminum that looked to be maybe an eighth of an inch thick. That takes a whole bunch more muscle than to just do some stamping in damp leather. I went out to my shop . . . couldn't recall if my press was 1 ton or half ton . . . it's a 1 ton from Harbor freight . . . There is a piece of 1/8 inch flat stock steel under the leather and a full size stamping tool standing. You can put the magnetic chuck on the end of the ram . . . and would probably want to cut an inch off each stamping tool . . . but it should work like a champ. The other thing you could do . . . remove the arm . . . take it to a machine shop . . . have them drill the arm for you . . . and put a set screw in the side of it that would be tightened with an allen wrench. Slip the stamping tool up in there . . . tighten with the allen wrench . . . stamp to your little heart's content. I might even put masking tape on the outside of my stamps . . . just push them up in there . . . friction would hold them. But then again . . . why don't you show us exactly what kind of stamping you want to do . . . it might make a difference on how you accomplish it. I use my ram to set any letters for initials or names and I use up to 1 inch letters . . . never have a problem. And if I wanted a magnetic tool holder . . . I'd put a flat magnet on the bottom of the ram . . . and slip a standard drill chuck up to it with the stamping tool . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
toxo Posted February 3, 2022 Report Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Treesner said: I think I would be cutting strap ends, cutting slots and hole and stamping logos. don't have compressed air in the leather area but interesting solution do you have a photo I don't follow This is just one youtube video that shows what you can do with an arbor press. Check out the back of the ram. Can be raised or lowered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCYOCPD-58 Quote
Members Treesner Posted February 3, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 3, 2022 do you think 150 pound press is enough for stamping leather with a 1.5x1.5 stamp and cutting slots and holes though leather? this K+M one is pretty tall and have an extra long feature as well https://kmshooting.com/product/arbor-press/ Quote
Members Treesner Posted February 3, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 3, 2022 13 hours ago, toxo said: This is just one youtube video that shows what you can do with an arbor press. Check out the back of the ram. Can be raised or lowered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCYOCPD-58 magnet is an interesting idea, if figured it would just break the magnet under the pressure but looks like its working of setting snaps for him Quote
Members dikman Posted February 4, 2022 Members Report Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Treesner said: do you think 150 pound press is enough for stamping leather with a 1.5x1.5 stamp and cutting slots and holes though leather? this K+M one is pretty tall and have an extra long feature as well https://kmshooting.com/product/arbor-press/ It won't have the leverage you will need, it's not designed like most arbor presses. You don't need a lot of pressure/force to re-size cartridge cases. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
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