CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Dwight said: But I can spell . . . don't have to scream . . . nor use language not preferable for a full family website. Grow up . . . will you? May God bless, Dwight i would suggest this book if you are really interested to learn about that portion of our history. Goes into every detail. The most comprehensive book i have ever read.https://www.amazon.com/Great-Plains-Walter-Prescott-Webb/dp/0803297025 14 hours ago, fredk said: NOT OUT OF SOME DAMNED 'PAPERBACK '!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT FROM THOSE WHO LIVED THEN AND WROTE THEIR MEMOIRES - NOT JUST ONE OR TWO BUT SEVERAL HOW DARE YOU YOU OBNOXIOUS GIT 'GREAT PLAINS' NORTH OF LONDON INDEED - YOU ARE NOWT BUT AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! i would suggest this book if you are really interested to learn about that portion of our history. Goes into every detail. the most comprehensive book i have ever read.https://www.amazon.com/Great-Plains-Walter-Prescott-Webb/dp/0803297025 Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Dwight said: Considering that is a staged pic . . . shined chaps . . . brand new cuffs . . . Sunday go to meeting hats on . . . with their Sunday coats . . . I'd really like someone somewhere to give me the low down on these two. Might just be actors from some sort of show . . . with their "show" clothes . . . that follow after Marshall Dillon's belt and holster . . . never was one like it on the range . . . As well . . . those kind of chaps also sewn they way they are across the front would have gotten the rider killed if he slipped forward and it went around the horn of the saddle. Then as well . . . both are wearing city boy galluses . . . and only the stage actors carried a horse beater whip like each has on his hand . . . to say nothing of the gold watch chain the dude on the left has . . . ostensibly going to his gold watch . . . that at his age he would not have been able to afford on a dollar a day and grub. But who knows. May God bless, Dwight Staged pictures like this were very common, photographers would set up at carnivals, dances, just about any public events here is a picture of my great grand daddy taken in about 1920 from what i can gather. It was taken at t a local happening of some sort. i have found other pictures in the local museum where he lived of the set but none of anyone with his clothes so surmise some or all of them were his own. We used to have the chaps and i put them on couple of times when i was a kid. I'm sure the artifacts and some of the getup were probably props. If you can enlarge the chaps you can see there are holes to completely tie up the front but only a few are used. My feelings not having actually ever had to wear a pair for work is that they probably didn't lace them all the way for comfort as much as safety, A belt for example could hang up on a saddle horn also but I've never heard of anyone being drug to death while hung up on a saddle horn? you can see how uncomfortable it would be completely tied as compared to one or two ties. My brother just let me know this photo taken pre grandma which is pre 1896. Edited February 11, 2022 by chuck123wapati Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 11, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 11, 2022 12 hours ago, LeatherLegion said: Any chance you can figure out if the photographer was right or left handed ? If the photograph is a negative/print then the photographer was probably right handed Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Davm Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 I know nothing about chaps so I am learning. I wondered why the belt buckle was in back, off hand I figured it ought to be in front. I also wondered why just a single thing was often seen in front. So. the deal is, the single thong in front is what a working cowboy would want in case he got thrown forward and the front of the chaps hooked over the saddle horn? Is that correct? On the sew on pockets, do they interfere were riding or are they "Okay"? It would be a convenience to have them. And on the fringe- I'll try the Plexiglas template with the one cut line. My problem with fringe is keeping each strand the same width as the others and not accidentally cutting off a strand at an angle. I can see that keeping everything flat under Plexiglas would be a huge help. How was the fringe attached? A separate piece sewn in? Thanks. Quote
Members Dwight Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Davm said: I know nothing about chaps so I am learning. I wondered why the belt buckle was in back, off hand I figured it ought to be in front. I also wondered why just a single thing was often seen in front. So. the deal is, the single thong in front is what a working cowboy would want in case he got thrown forward and the front of the chaps hooked over the saddle horn? Is that correct? On the sew on pockets, do they interfere were riding or are they "Okay"? It would be a convenience to have them. And on the fringe- I'll try the Plexiglas template with the one cut line. My problem with fringe is keeping each strand the same width as the others and not accidentally cutting off a strand at an angle. I can see that keeping everything flat under Plexiglas would be a huge help. How was the fringe attached? A separate piece sewn in? Thanks. Occasionally . . . the fringe was actually cut into the chap itself. It was not a separate piece. But from all I've seen . . . most were cut and then added onto the chaps . . . I guess the idea was either to use up small scrap pieces . . . or to be able to replace torn pieces later on. But anyway . . . the chaps go on the bottom . . . the fringe lays on the edge . . . and a long separate piece goes over the top of the edge of the fringe . . . when fastened down . . . it held the fringe in place. Hope this helps. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, Davm said: I know nothing about chaps so I am learning. I wondered why the belt buckle was in back, off hand I figured it ought to be in front. I also wondered why just a single thing was often seen in front. So. the deal is, the single thong in front is what a working cowboy would want in case he got thrown forward and the front of the chaps hooked over the saddle horn? Is that correct? On the sew on pockets, do they interfere were riding or are they "Okay"? It would be a convenience to have them. And on the fringe- I'll try the Plexiglas template with the one cut line. My problem with fringe is keeping each strand the same width as the others and not accidentally cutting off a strand at an angle. I can see that keeping everything flat under Plexiglas would be a huge help. How was the fringe attached? A separate piece sewn in? Thanks. Maybe maybe not learn with a grain of salt! The lacing it self was for the main purpose of adjustment still is. There are no experts on wearing or using chaps giving you answers me included. I'm sure part of it may be safety part of it comfort part of it because as the lace broke out on the range and there was only enough left to tie them on by one hole. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members hickok55 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 i need a 100% historically accurate picture of 19th century step in shotgun chaps. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, hickok55 said: i need a 100% historically accurate picture of 19th century step in shotgun chaps. you posted one! its as good as any others. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members hickok55 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: you posted one! its as good as any others. oh okay thank you Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, hickok55 said: oh okay thank you your welcome! good luck and look forward to see what you make. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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