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So I've got myself a 6" crank splitter. It's marked "H. Sørensen" but it looks to be mechanically identical to early model Landis splitters predating the model 30, based on what Bruce said in my original thread asking about it. Like the early Landis, but unlike the later ones, the Sørensen adjusts with a single lever on top of the machine that moves internal cams to apply pressure to the top roller bearings rather than having screws to adjust the top roller height. I've got the blade plenty sharp and run some scraps through it to test it. I can get it to split down to paper thin Ok or just shave the tiniest amount off the bottom of the piece, but not much in between. I've stripped it and put it back together again so I have a good idea of how it works mechanically, I've just never seen or used one before so I'm not sure what the best way to set up and tune it is. I'm the kind of guy who wants to fully understand his machines so I can make sure they're set up right and fix them when they go wrong. I'm pretty new to mechanised leather working so please don't assume I know anything about anything when it comes to machinery, but if I can get my head around this well enough I'll write up a "crank splitters from first principles" manual for other people who find themselves in my situation. I'm trying to work out: what the proper relationship of the blade to the centreline of the lower roller is; how high blade should be set above the lower roller normally (do I need a set of feeler gauges for this?); what the various lower roller adjustments do, and when/why they should be adjusted; what the blade height adjustments do, and why you adjust them; whether it is normal for the gear cover to interfere with the top roller adjustment on this type of splitter or if there's something weird with my one; what range of thicknesses this type of splitter can produce; and whether it works better with chrome or veg-tan. Here is my understanding of the theory of operation. I've just derived this from looking at the machine as it goes back together, I have no experience with using these at all, so please correct me if this is wrong (or confirm it's correct ) There are two rollers, a smooth upper and a grooved lower roller that feed the material through onto a blade positioned between them. The blade is fixed relative to the chassis and the upper, smooth, roller adjusts up and down in the chassis relative to the blade edge to control the thickness of leather you get out of the machine. This also affects the amount of pressure on the work as it is fed through. The blade is adjustable for height via set screws in the blade carrier that bear on the bolts holding the blade carrier to the chassis. These are there to level the blade and fine-tune the height relative to the lower roller and aren't intended as regular points of adjustment The lower, grooved, roller does most of the feeding of the work. It has a fixed maximum height but rides on springs so thicker leather will push it down allowing the machine to take a thicker cut. The maximum height of the lower roller is fixed by nuts on threaded posts extending from the bottom of the lower roller bearing blocks that control how high the springs can push it in the chassis. The spring tension on the lower roller is controlled by screws that bear on the bottom spring plate. These don't move the lower roller at all, they just control the amount of force it takes to displace it, and therefore how hard the leather being fed is squashed between the two rollers for a given feed height. Does the lower roller height normally get set once then left alone, with the screw adjustments being to level it rather than adjust its height for different bits of work? It seems to be height-adjustable via nuts on the threaded pins that come from the bottom of the lower roller bearings, through the casing, and bear on the plates on top of the lower springs. When I got it it had some obviously non-original nylock nuts on there that were so tight it unscrewed the pin from the lower roller bearing rather than adjusting up and down. I've since cleaned the thread and put loctite on where the pin screws into the lower roller bearing block and replaced the nuts with non-locking ones. There wasn't enough space to get two nuts in to permanently lock the height of the lower roller as I think is depicted in the landis manual. There's a square-headed screw right at the bottom with a pointed end that bears on the lower spring plate. I am assuming the blade goes in bevel-up? it was in bevel-up when I got the machine but I can see how it could also work bevel down and having it bevel up means the angle of attack is dependent on the angle the blade is sharpened at. That's an issue for wood planes, which is the closest analogue to this I can think of, but probably isn't with leather. Here's a couple of pictures of where I've got it set relative to the lower roller at the moment. The blade stops are quite badly chipped and the blade shows signs of having been screwed up tight against them before but the main edge is Ok. In the second one I've just stuck a bit of leather under the blade to make the edge more obvious since it's shiny and hard to photograph. The biggest issue I'm having is that the large drive gear is attached to the upper roller so it moves up and down with the upper roller as you adjust the machine. This is fine, except that the gear cover that bolts to the side of the machine doesn't have enough space to allow for the full travel of the gear. If I set it so it's just about touching the bottom of the cover at the lowest extent of its travel it only adjusts about 5/8ths of the way up before the top of the gear hits the top of the inside of the gear cover. If I take the cover off I can get a full range of adjustment out of it. Given the damage evident on the inside of the gear cover I don't think this is a result of my having put the machine back together wrong. Here's some pictures showing the clearance, and the damage inside the gear cover caused by the big gear grinding on it. Is this normal for this style of machine (which I struggle to believe) or have I or a previous owner, done something daft with the way its set up? I can only see one way the gears can possibly go together so I don't think that's wrong. Do the model 30 Landis splitters do this too? I'm wondering if the machine is really intended to be set up to do a fairly narrow range of work, but do it very accurately, and then left alone, with something more easily adjustable used for a wider but less precise range of work. Thanks.
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If you can deal with the smell, raw cod liver oil is very good for veg tanned leather. Mixed with tallow it's one of the traditional curriers fats. I rendered a few kilos of beef tallow a while ago which I've used on various things mixed with cod liver oil, based on a recipe from an old leather dressings book I got of abebooks a while ago. The smell is an issue though, but it goes away once the oils have stopped oxidising. I don't understand the chemistry but from what I've read it's the oxidation of the oils in contact with the collagen fibres of the leather that is beneficial, so while 'deodorised' cod liver oil might be more pleasant it doesn't do the same job as the raw stuff. It works best on things you can apply it to and then put aside someplace for a while to de-stink.
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Thanks guys. Knut, your splitter looks very similar to mine but the main casting is slightly different. More like the Landis than the solid casting mine has: Bruce, here's the guts of the adjustment doohickey on the top of the splitter with the cams that lower the top roller. There are springs between the two roller bearing blocks which raise it, like on the Landis. The down side of this system is that it's pretty hard to lock down with the thumbscrew, if the leather is a touch thick it'll spring the top roller up. I have a couple of ideas on how to fix this though. A better handle to get it tighter and a cover plate that is tapered towards the thin setting end of the curved slot so it wedges in place better. Having stripped and cleaned the machine I have a fairly good understanding of how it all works but having never owned or used a splitter before I'm not quite sure of the subtleties of getting this machine set up properly. I've read the Landis manual from bootmaker.com since this machine is pretty close, but I'll start another thread with adjustment questions so it's more useful in the search results later for people with similar machines. Thanks.
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Hi all, In another thread on this forum someone mentioned mil-spec sewing with machines and there were some requests for the army spec book detailing the techniques. I found these on Google Books the other day and figured that even if they aren't the book in question they are still interesting! They contain maintenance as well as operational instructions for the following Singer Models: 112W116 131W113 7-33 97-10 17W15 55-5 111W155 Organizational and field maintenance manual: sewing machines for the repair of parachutes and allied equipment, Singer models 112W116, (FSN 3530-171-2123) ... 111W155, (FSN 3530-359-8856). Google Books page PDF Download Link Operator's manual: sewing machines for the repair of parachutes and allied equipment, Singer models 112W116 (FSN 3530-892-4636) ... 111W151 (FSN 3530-892-4629). Google Books page PDF Download Link Organizational, field, and depot maintenance manual: parachute, cargo, 28-foot diameter nylon canopy, type T-7A (converted) Google Books link PDF Download Link Organizational and direct support maintenance manual: general repair procedures for clothng and individual equipment Google Books link PDF Download Lin k http://books.google.com/books/download/Organizational_and_direct_support_mainte.pdf?id=H9MXAAAAYAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U2RK_xHEtFAdJBzeDgjgqr6J6bERg&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0' rel="external nofollow">All of the books are in the public domain and can be legally downloaded in full as PDFs using the links above. Enjoy!
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Hi Bruce, Thanks for looking that up! That's exactly the type of top mine has, but it had a naff aluminium part covering the arc where the adjuster screw runs and it's a bit mangled and the screw won't grip it properly. I'll probably replace it with a brass or steel one. The roller can't be adjusted one side at a time. The adjustment bears on a pair of cams which apply pressure to the top roller symmetrically. I guess that as long as everything wears evenly it's a good way of keeping it straight but if it does ever get out of line I can't see a way it could be ajusted. I've got mine in bits now and the rusty parts are sitting in a bath of evapo-rust to clean them off. Once I've cleaned the gunk out of the rest of it I'll take some photos of it and put them up here. Cheers.
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How Do You Photograph Belts And Guitar Straps?
amuckart replied to UKRay's topic in Leather Photography
Hi Ray, Sorry if I'm telling you stuff you already know. It's difficult to figure out what someone else knows about stuff just from the forum, but if I'm teaching you to suck eggs as they say over here, at least this might be useful to other readers. That kit should be all good. You might need another lamp if you want to avoid shadows. I found with two I couldn't quite get things well lit enough. The ixus 980 is a good camera, and it had a Program AE mode which is good. The biggest thing you'll want to do is turn the camera flash off and set it to the lowest ISO setting it'll do (80 or 100, no higher than 200). If you have issues with depth of field, set the camera to aperture priority mode and crank it down to f2.8 or so. From the photos you sent before it looks like either you have the flash on or you're lighting the belts from the same direction as the camera, which means you'll get bad reflections and bright spots on the shiny bits. You want to light the subject with indirect light bounced off the inside of the light box or at least filtered through a diffuser. These articles are ones I've found useful. Obviously you've already got a light tent so you don't need to build one, but the comments and notes on use are still good: http://www.studiolighting.net/homemade-light-box-for-product-photography/ http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-make-a-inexpensive-light-tent http://www.pbase.com/wlhuber/light_box_light_tent This might be useful if you're having issues with harsh flash highlights: http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-soften-up-harsh-flash-lighting http://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-make-a-diy-ring-flash-tutorial This is a good setup too: http://digital-photography-school.com/cooking-up-a-photograph-in-your-kitchen Cheers. -
Hi Knut, Do you happen to have a manual for it? Near as I can tell it is a clone of a Landis or American splitter but with a different adjustment mechanism on top. I'd love to see a photo of your one. Cheers.
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How Do You Photograph Belts And Guitar Straps?
amuckart replied to UKRay's topic in Leather Photography
Hi Ray, There are four things you need. A decent camera, a decent tripod, a light box, and good software. Almost any modern digital camera will do the job, but you want one with a "programmed autofocus" mode. That allows you better control over flash and exposure without requiring fully manual mode that you only tend to get on high-end cameras. You won't get decent shots in this kind of situation with fully automatic mode. You don't need a cable release or remote, just set the camera to 2 second self-timer so you're not touching it and causing shake when you take the picture. The beauty of using a digital camera for this is that you can take a hundred shots of something and pick the one or two that work. You don't need a hugely expensive high-end tripod, but don't waste time with cheap flimsy things. The one I have is a decent portable tripod but it isn't stable enough to do long exposures without shaking, even when I'm not touching the camera. You want to avoid using the builtin flash, so your exposure times are going to be longer. If you can get a tripod that allows the camera to be mounted underneath pointing down you'll find that useful for this kind of work. You can build a light box quite easily. Google has lots of info on them. I made mine out of a 60lt plastic wheelie-crate that I store the paper and lights in when I'm not using it. It's not perfect, but it works pretty well. The major thing is to use 1550nm 'daylight' bulbs in the lights and to play around with the white balance of the pictures. Having a white card somewhere in shot you can crop out later is useful. Google's picasa app is a good free application for correcting white balance and doing basic edits. You don't need photoshop for basic product photos Here's the light box I use: The major thing I want to change is to make it so I can take photos looking straight down into the box. It's a lot easier to get the object set up in a box like that. Here are some pictures from it. I'm still getting too-bright highlights on some parts, but it still works a lot better than I could do otherwise. I keep some matte finish light card stock loosely rolled up in the box to use as backgrounds. You can also use fabric or felt. The key is not to use anything shiny and to have it be a smooth curve from the top-rear corner of the box to the front-bottom corner of the box so there aren't any sharp corners in the background of the shot. If you want any more info, please ask. I'm not an expert on these but I've managed to make it work Ok. -
Hi Bruce, Thanks for that. I've actually started taking the machine apart now mostly to understand how it works since I've never had one before. It's a good thing I did because parts of it are quite worn and one of the castings is cracked. The four screws on the top are just structural. The adjustment seems to be done on the lower roller from underneath. It looks like the reason it won't adjust down to zero is because of wear in the cams that set the height of the upper roller, so I'm going to have to shim it somehow. I'm still curious about the maker. It's odd to find a company that has no hits on google.
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Hi all, I've got what appears to be a hand-cranked 6" splitter, marked "H. Sørensen & Co. A/S, Mas*scratches*fabrik, Glostrup Denmark" It is also marked with "Type: 128 NR. 2000". I'm wondering if anyone has seen one of these before. Googling for the maker isn't turning up anything useful. It adjusts by a lever on top and has a wing nut to tighten at a given depth. It doesn't seem to adjust right down to 0 though, is that normal for this type of machine or do I need to adjust something somewhere? The guage on top goes down to zero, but there's still 3-4mm gap between the rollers at that point. I'm going to be taking it apart anyway because it has quite a bit of fine surface rust on the rollers and blade and is completely blunt so if anyone has general hints on rebuilding a crank splitter I'd love to hear them. Thanks.
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I can't help you with the repainting issue because I don't know enough about it, but if you've got rust problems with the machine I can't recommend evapo-rust highly enough. It's not cheap, but it works amazingly well and it doesn't strip nickel/chrome plating or paint or anything else other than rust and oxide bluing finishes. I've got no connection with the product or company at all, I'm just someone who's used it on two machines so far with great success.
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I'm working backwards through this thread right now so I don't reply to things that are already covered. I've got a small collection of 12 or so curved awls for various things, mostly old Barnsley and King awls but by far the nicest was made by Dick Anderson at Thornapple River Boots. That said, when I'm making medieval shoes I use what they did, which is a straight awl. Curved awls are a post-medieval thing. Back in The Day™ they used straight awls even for tunnel stitching. It's quite doable but it's a very different technique than using a curved awl (which I'm not very good at). All the shoes on my blog were sewn with straight awls I made myself out of random bits of tool steel. Mostly old allen keys I chopped the bent bit off of, threw in a drill mounted in a vice and went after with a dremel while it was spinning. Man, I hope there aren't any machinists on here, that'll probably give them conniptions The awls I use are round, tapered with a slight chisel point and a mirror polish. They're not quite the same as the shape of medieval awls but my forging skills aren't up to reproducing those yet. I haven't used anything but linen for a while. With a good hand wax it locks up way tighter than I can get with synthetic and if you ply up your own cords you can tune the thickness to exactly what you need for the seam you're building. Personally I don't use a pricking wheel, I just eyeball things. I've only got one and it's 13SPI which is a lot finer than I need for most things. Extant medieval shoes show the natural slight variations in stitch length that comes with an awl-as-you-go technique done by eye. Still, I mostly manage fairly tidy seams on things. Not in medieval work, no. Distinct outsoles don't start being used on new shoes as a matter of course until the very late 15th century/early 16th century. There are oddities of shoes with built up soles, but they're oddities. The vast majority of medieval footwear was single soled. Sometimes you see ones that have had repair soles put on but that's often a pretty temporary and crudely-done repair. I tallow my shoes, but there really isn't a lot you can do to make a medieval shoe waterproof. If you walk in the wet and mud you're going to get damp feet after a while. Pattens are the real answer, and they aren't nearly common enough in reenactment IMO. It may be that they had specially heavily curried leather in medieval times for use as shoe soles but I'm not aware of any research to back that idea up.
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Hi Ray, What style of boots are you looking to pattern? Do you want knee high lace ups or thigh-high fold-over and buckle types? I don't have patterns for them per-se but I can have a go at explaining how I generate patterns.
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Hey cool, people link to that? That's me, so if you've got any questions about shoe stuff you think I might be able to help with, feel free to PM me or start a thread with questions and PM me that it's there and I'll do my best. The blog will get updated again once I've finished moving it to a new platform on it's own domain.
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Suze, Since it sounds like you're a SCAdian, if you find someone in your local group who has a copy of Shoes and Pattens and/or Leather and Leatherworking in Anglo-Scandinavian and Medieval York both of them have examples of embroidered leather shoes. In shoes at least it's not done the way you might think, it's tunnel stitched through the leather rather than stabbed. If you don't have the books I can have a go at a small sample just with plain linen to give you the idea. It's only really good for doing stripes but until you get into the renaissance and rapier hangers it's the only example of true embroidery on leather I know of. Even the rapier hangers aren't really embroidered per-se, they just have fairly fine decorative stitching on them.
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I'm no old-timer, but seeing as I came at this from the shoe side of things that's how I've learned too, except that I use split nylon fishing line instead of boar bristles. I used needles and synthetic thread for maybe three projects before I moved on to linen and 'bristles'. The bristles take a bit of practice to put on but now that I'm used to it I can't go back to needles.
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Hi all, My background is in making reproduction medieval shoes and they called this stuff code back then. It's been a long time since I've hand stitched anything without it, but I ply up my own cords out of single-strand #10 linen and put bristles on them rather than using this newfangled poly stuff and harness needles Poly's hard to taper and I don't think you build good tight round closed seams in a shoe with needles. Anyway, some time ago I wrote up how I make up code or hand wax as modern shoemakers call it, on my blog along with photos at http://wherearetheel...aking-code.html If it'd help in terms of search etc, I can always transcribe that content directly into the forum. As I say in the blog post, I was poured about twice as much as I should have in each pour so in the photos I'm pulling a bit too much and it didn't really mix properly. This is the mix that works for me, with the beeswax I have, and the rosin I have. It pays to experiment a bit and write down your ratios as you go, but make it up in decent size batches so once you get it right you've got enough to last you for a while. The made up wax will dry out over time as the volatiles evaporate out. Storing it in a ziploc baggie, or even better a jar of water stops this. I've also been working on a recipe using proper black pitch rendered down from stockholm tar that's probably closer to what the medieval guys used, but I doubt it'd be much use for saddlery work being as it's awful messy. I'd advise against using oil or tallow to cut the rosin with. It can go from rock hard to a gooey mess in the space of one or two drops if you get it wrong. With a good mix I can build a seam then take a knife and cut off the externally visible parts of every stitch and still need pliers to pull the leather apart. When it comes apart there will be these hard little 'pegs' of waxed thread filling the holes. I hope that's of some help to folk on here. I'm getting an awful lot out of this forum, so thanks to everyone who makes it such a useful place.
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Another question about this machine which I'll stick here rather than start a new topic on - I'm wondering if I'm missing a bit of the shuttle carrier. There are two screw holes in it that were empty when I got the machine and I can't figure out what they're for. The shuttle doesn't seem to be the part #98608 "Shuttle Driver and Feed Raising Cam" listed in the parts manual from parts.singerco.com, but that manual also talks about the part only being suitable for the shuttle #98608 "not with the old style Shuttles". Given that my machine is a 1915 model, I'm wondering if what I've got is the "old style" shuttle driver and shuttle it mentions, presumably meaning I'll have to replace both parts if I want to replace the shuttle Here are some pictures showing the screw holes: I can't see how these could be for grub screws because there doesn't seem to be an appropriate bearing surface on the shuttle hook for them to mate with. Is there a part that goes on here that I'm missing? Thanks.
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Hi all, I'm working on a 45K25 I picked up recently for NZ$200. It's been in someones garage for the last several years and looks like it's had some slightly 'interesting' work done on it in the past. A lot of the screws and bolt heads are a bit damaged and the grub screw holding the hand wheel on is totally wrecked and needs grinding out with a dremel. The connecting rod that actuates the shuttle was disconnected when I got it and the machine didn't turn over cleanly when I reconnected it. Turns out this is because there was a grub screw in it that was way too long and was grinding on an adjacent part as it osscilated. The main drive shaft and cams etc seem tight, there's no slop in the needle bar or anything so I left those bits alone. I've stripped the bottom half of the machine and cleaned it up. Here are some before/after shots: Now it's pretty much all back together and it turns over smoothly. It needs a new feed dog and needle plate at least, and I want to get a wax pot for it, but I want to make sure it's going to sew before I start forking out for more parts for it. I think the timing is fixed on this machine so I've adjusted the needle bar height but I'm concerned that there seems to be quite a bit of slop in the shuttle. Forward to back is fairly tight but there's quite a bit of rotational slop in the shuttle. It picks up the top thread Ok, but it seems to catch let the loop go cleanly. I'm not sure if this is a timing issue where the shuttle is starting the anticlockwise oscilation before the thread take-up has started or if it's because the shuttle is munted. Is a bit of rotational slop normal for this type of machine, or do I need a new shuttle and/or shuttle carrier? I'm also wondering if the clones of this machine like the Techsew GA-5 are sufficiently parts-compatible that I could use screws for one of those to replace some of the damaged ones on my machine. I dont' really know what thread types the 45K is using, but being a 1905 british-made machine it seems likely that they're some flavour of imperial but I have no idea what. Does anyone know if the GA-5 machine needle plates and feed dogs will go onto an original 45K25 as well? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks DJ, I appreciate the explanation.
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Hi all, Here's my first go at a purse based on an example in Olaf Goubitz' book Purses in Pieces. 1.5-2mm veg tan yearling for the body of the purse and a sample bit of calfskin from Pergamena for the pouchlets on the front. The calfskin is thin but incredibly strong and supple. It is expensive but quite possibly the nicest leather I've ever worked with. Unfortunately I didn't have a bit enough piece to make three pouchlets as per the original and they aren't quite as open at the top as they should be so I haven't installed the drawstrings yet. Front. No strap or buckle yet because I don't have an appropriate buckle right now. Access to the front compartment under the small flap. The rear of the compartment is textile as per the originals. I used a bit of linen canvas, which is a bit too heavy. Next time I'll use some heavy apron weight stuff. Lifting the front compartment shows the pouchlets on the front of the back compartment. The leather reinforcing around the edge of the linen is whip stitched on the inside so the sewing doesn't show. Access to the rear compartment Looking down into the pouchlets. You can also see the folded welt in the front compartment here. It adds a bit of decoration and a little bit more internal volume to the compartment. There are no gussets in this style of purse. Side view showing the folded welt and the way the leather for the pouchlets is sewn into the side seam before the purse compartment is turned. Decorative stitching on the pouchlets. I only got this right on one of them but the alternating stitch decoration on the edge is done by controlling the lay of the threads in the stitch not by moving the awl holes. Back view of the purse. I didn't quite get the shapes right after I turned them but it's not as bad as this picture makes it look. The back compartment should also be slightly smaller than the front as per the originals.
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Hi Jim, Yes, thanks. I've got the manuals so I can (I hope!) figure out where all the bits are supposed to go again, it's just getting them all in the correct rotational aligment that I'm worried about. Still, I can take it to a professional for that part as you say. Of course, it's a moot point at the moment because there's one part I simply cannot get to shift so I'm a bit stuck trying to get the thing apart right now
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Sorry if this is a daft question, but how is this tool used? Do you start with square straps and compress them round?
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Hi all, I've bought an old 45k21 pretty cheap. It's complete, but not in the best condition. One major problem with it is that the linkage between the main crankshaft and the shuttle carrier bar had been disconnected when I got it. The parts are there, but when I reconnect them something is sticking pretty badly at some point in the rotation of the handwheel. I'm stripping the machine to clean the rust and gunk off and check the parts for wear etc. I'm taking lots of photographs and notes as I go but because it wasn't fully assembled and running when I got it I have very little confidence that I can get it back together with the timing correct. I know where all the bits go etc and I'm keeping an extensive photographic record of the disassembly so getting it back together intially isn't a problem but how do I get everything back into alignment again? Assuming a pile of parts and knowledge of roughly how they go together but not the exact rotational relationship between each part on the shaft etc is there a procedure to follow for getting a machine like this running again? Thanks.
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G'day Tony, That's the way I'm leaning, if I can get it, which is by no means certain. Much as I want it, I'm also slightly wary of getting a machine whose parts are so expensive (says the guy who just bought an A.1 as a fixer-upper!) I don't reckon I'd get far off the wharf before my VW sank unfortunately, otherwise I'd take you up on that! Cheers.