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It looks like the leather has soaked up the dye and it really hasn't turned brown but what you are still seeing through the dye is the brownish color of the leather.
It may take several applications for the leather to absorb the dye, when you are satisfied clear coat it to make it shine.
OH I so hope you are right, I'll add another application to the pieces I have already done today and see what it does. I will be honest, it's soaking it up as fast as I can apply it. Thanks so much. Cheryl
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I recently bought a black tack set online, quite nice actually, tooled but the black dye hadn't covered it all. So I asked for help on here and got it down to the type of dye to use and how to use resolene on tack.
I noticed when I started redyeing it, it looked brown. The pictures I'm putting up show the brow band, with missing dye, brow band dyed, brow band on the towel with black pigment coming off just as it should, and the brow band after a little rubbing. It is really nice brown, almost a reddish mahogany, but as you can see next to the undyed pieces, it's definitely not black.
Does anyone have any ideas on what happened and if it can be corrected?
Thanking you in advance since I ask so many questions here. Cheryl
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4 years ago, I bought two Victorian embossed leather seats online for a slipper chair I got for a buck. Of course I didn't do anything intelligent like measure the seat and back diameter first. The embossed leather was too small. Well honestly it was in too poor of shape to really use to support anything, too so I decided to use them as wall hangings. I stuck them back in closet and forgot about them until they practically fell on my head a few days ago. I was just standing there looking at them when my mind flashed back, well let's just say a LONG time ago when I did some grave rubbings through a university class as a high school student. When you get old your mind can remember way back, just not yesterday. I also have an old saddle in the basement I bought online specifically because the carving was so beautiful. However on the right side it had been left SOMEWHERE with water dripping on it or slung on that side in a puddle, and just left. So the seat on that side wasn't attached, and that fender had copper rivets all down it where someone started using it again and was trying to keep the fender on where it had rotted.
Anyway, both pieces are beautiful, the seats have a shield with a bird inside holding a sword that has a helmet slung over it, and has other more traditional Victorian designs like ribbons, and it has a column that goes around the circle, etc. I had intended to fix the saddle up a little at a time but got one that looks brand new and fit my little chubby hobby horse really well for $50.00, that I researched online and found out was the saddle from the King Series started sets. May not be a Billy Cook, but a really nice saddle for the kind of riding I do.
So I sent an email to friend of mine to see if he still had the paper you make templates out of, and told him about the grave rubbing idea, and have rice paper on the way. Have any of you ever used this technique for a design? Thanks, Cheryl
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Well said Cheryl... That's a very good point.... Thank u for ur kind comments.... I'd like to see some of ur work....
So would I
Seriously I've just been doing conchos and Trail Riding ID tags up until now. And I'm 'blinging' some already made tack sets to sell so I can get some leather to do my own tack sets. I'll put on the IDs I made. One was for my partner which is how we met, and one is mine I've used at other places to advertise. I'll put on some conchos too, musta made a million of them but I was ahead or behind my time :-) Nobody wants leather conchos. Only sold the first set I ever made, but I recently put a set I made on a new tack set I bought online that I'm redyeing. And realized I had a MAJOR flaw in the design (which doesn't seem possible on something that small). I used mod podge in the gutters I made for the bling, then covered the tops with it too to help them stay glued on during use. I screwed the chicago screw in at the bit area in tight on one side, and while I was taking them off, noticed that one had a crease in it. Wasn't a crease, it was a crack. I guess since the mod podge dries so hard, which was why I used it, it also cracks under pressure. So I have a years worth of mistakes I could show you but I don't see it that way. It lead to me starting a business instead of haphazardly listing things here and there, and it also allowed me to become familiar with my tools. And now I can take the bling back off, clean it up and use it again. This is the set that cracked. I carved and tooled these, made the leaves with a pear shader then carved the edges of them. Used a tool to make the thorns, and put vintage black glass scarabs on as the blackberries. I'm just glad I learned now before I sent a set out on a tack set I made. I attached the drawing I found online I took the design from.
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Thank you, not sure I want carry this around as a sample (might draw some laughter), lol.. might wait till I get better at this.... Working on a stitching pony today, that I think will help improve my hand stitching... I'm a horse owner so I'm also interested in making horse tack, but taking baby steps for now...
Way cool on being a horse owner!!!! Jerry I've been carving and tooling leather conchos up until recently. And someone said on here, I don't remember who, NEVER apologize for your work. If someone laughs ask them the last time they made their own tool pouch!!!!!!
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Pretty cool for a noob. I read a thread here that said you should always wear or have an example of your work with you. Well I'm wanting to do tack primarily, so I'm thinking about making a a pouch for myself to carry some double tools I have, tooling, carving, painting I don't know yet, LOL. I don't wear belts, and don't know anything else I could wear, well except some concho hairbands I made :-) Anyway, you reminded me I need to add that to my list, and congrats on your project. Cheryl
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Cheryl,
I just left a business that I started with a friend 4 years ago. It just became to much DRAMA. He has a large family that he allows to dominate his day (work days) and his mind is not on business. I thought it would get better after each drama session but started to realize this is how it will always be, one drama after another, it is how some people function (or don't function). I could not make business decisions without him, I would propose something and he would not make a decision, so the opportunity would pass us by. He held up everything by not moving forward. I needed to leave. It is some peoples way of taking control of a situation but never calling themselves the "leader" they are just and anchor to the rest of us when we are tied to a business with them.
Anyways, I gave a 6 week notice, made sure the bills were all paid, cleaned up all of "special" jobs I took in for customers and made sure all the work was caught up. I moved my sewing machines, benches, and tools into my garage and started a new business. We remain friends and my stress level is zero. You don't have to worry about stepping on someone else s emotional toes. You can deal with customers without having wait to talk to a partner about money, you make all the decisions!!
I am working less and making more money, and are doing the projects I want to do, turning away to lower profit jobs if I want.
It sounds like you need to change the name of the business to "Single C" and do this your self. Most of your posts have had a boat anchor attached (your partner) and you cannot move forward because of it. Get out now before you get in to deep financially or you are no longer friends.
Something for you to think about, I have not looked back!
Rick
You know, it's strange Rick, she thinks she's the one coming up with solutions and I'm being stubborn. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I offered to give the tack away decorated for testimonials, she didn't want that. I offered to finish it and her sell it on eBay under her ID because I don't want anything to do with the business Paypal (which we don't have set up yet) because I'll be honest, I'm NOT good with money. I sold on eBay for quite a while and bought more than I sold and barely got out alive with a 100% reputation. I was doing vintage things at the time, jewelry and smalls and I always found something too good to pass up knowing I could make money on it. I guess auctions are my personal form of gambling. she didn't want to do that. Then after she told me to send it all back and I went off about my time, the business and my paying shipping, plus it being up to me to find some working capitol, she wrote the next day a long ugly email and said all she wanted to hear from me right then was did I want her to send me the money to ship them. Thant she had every intention of selling the tack and putting it back into the business. The day before she said she was just going to throw it in the barn with their old saddles they use for training. I gave up reading minds a long time ago unfortunately.
Yesterday I worked on the website changing it back the way she wanted, after I sent an apologetic email in return saying i didn't want her money. I have sent her posts from here and she's mad I'm discussing all this. I told her I didn't post about this issue, but rather what to coat the paint with so it didn't fall off after the tack was used a week. And that these were the posts I was getting. She threatened yesterday to just walk away and I told her I'd rather be friends with her than partners. I wouldn't even have to change the name, mine is Cheryl Crossan :-) I have someone here helping me learn excel, I've downloaded everything and read every tutorial I could find that was relevant, found a leather supplier and signed up for a wholesale account, down the website twice, researched everything from hardware to what seems to be selling at eBay, plus been working on this tack. She found a wholesale rhinestone business and ordered some to put on a pair of jeans. I ordered USMC and Resolene and some glass scarabs because on the black set I bought I'm putting my own conchos on the set and didn't have an extra scarab for the breast collar. Picture from photobucket attached along with the drawing online I took it from. She says I'm flitting and need to concentrate on finishing the tack. I think I'm trying to survive and get this business off the ground. And like I said Rick the truth is probably some where in the middle, I don't know. I just know I can't fight about it anymore and I'm almost out of apologies. I want her to walk away though I don't want to just leave her behind. I don't know, I just know you all have some really good advice. Thanks for writing Rick. Cheryl
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Here is a new backpack for a workmate, also a Christmas present for his wife....she loves Navajo style....like silver conchos, turquoise and tan leather....so here we go!!
It was a great pain for some reason to find turquoise colored thread in 138...and also had some trouble finding 1-2 oz goat leather in this colors...the welt cord in front is an old vacum cleaner electrical cord....it gave the bag a good shape and made a solid welt!!...Liner is from an old couch cover and conchos are used from e-bay......All is well now, she loves her new backpack and he got some extra points, haha...
Thanks to Kevin King for inspiring me to try this french rolled edge...works great.....I am learning....
ya all let me know what you think...
Jimbob
OMG Jimbob it's absolutely lovely, Cheryl
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25 or 30 years ago i worked for two different contractors. They were in business togeather at one time and they both told me the same thing we got out of the partnership while we were still friends. It's hard to be in business with another person most of the time. Best of luck for both of ya.
I am so realizing that. I think I'd be better doing the business on my own a little at a time, and us remaining friends. Thanks for taking the time to write. Cheryl
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I think I should take up professional ballet or something easier than trying to learn this craft, and art form. After reading an older post about lining headstalls, where the man was using skirting leather, I said to myself WHAT? So I went and checked all three of my bridles here (yes, I wanna own all of them in the world, LOL) and realized the backs WEREN'T rough out leather like I assumed. I am not talking about the other topic of the evil blue tack set but my personal bridles.
Now I'm not sure if they were burnished on the back or actually lined. However they were done, they weren't sewn down the length of the reins yet they are smooth. But the headstall is sewn completely.
I had intended to use 7-9 oz veg tanned leather for my headstalls. It seems to be the same thickness as everything I have. Would it be better to use a lighter weight and line with the same, say 4-5 oz and then line with the same weight on the back, or use use a heavier weight and line with something lighter, or take up ballet :-)
Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide. Cheryl
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(((HUGS)))
Of course I understand that you don't want it to be sold or represent your first sold product. It's good to step away from this for a bit. It sounds as if both of you are kicking yourselves over this. It's just not worth it.
You know Sylvia, I think we're both feeling extremely stupid and sensitive right now. And I'm sorry now that I even put all this drama and chaos up. Not that people haven't been supportive, they have. It's just this isn't why I joined the forum. I want to learn, I want to get better at what i do, I want to see other people's work, and for two days or so it's been a silly cheap piece of tack I've been talking about. You're right, it's not worth it, and how it got this far I can't seem to figure out. But I'll take my share of the blame for opening my mouth before my brain engaged, and consider that a lesson too. Thank you so much. cheryl
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Cheryl:
I don't think it's a waste. It's 2 things to me.
1. It's a tack pattern to take and improve upon (I always trace a pattern from "kits", and I take apart pre-made clothing to take a pattern from that too)
2. It's an educational experience. (Live and learn I say. It was an expensive lesson, but so is a college education. You learned and I think that is a good thing!)
I don't think I would put your bling on it at all. I would just paint it up and sell it as a "customized" one made in India. Get it out of your hair. Someone will buy it.
I wish it was that simple Sylvia. What makes me angry is it wasn't even that EXPENSIVE a mistake, around $120.00 for all the stuff, but my friend and partner isn't speaking to me currently. She works at home on a high pressure job, and things are crap for her right now, and when she sent me like the third email of the day that said, 'whatever floats your boat' I'm afraid I wasn't too understanding. I offered to finish it and find someone who could give us a GOOD testimonial from this area, someone respected in our little corner of the world, and she said she wasn't giving it away. I said, 'ok, I'll finish it and we can sell it with an honest description on eBay, just not under the company name.' Nope, wants me to send it all back, says she'll sell it this summer trail riding, etc. When I asked her if she still wanted me to paint the leather keepers white is when she sent that response. I got on AIM, which I should have done some deep breathing first, or taken a walk or something.....and said what didn't float my boat was her attitude. She said it wasn't a long term solution but had been intended to help me get the business started. I said uh, 'help me? Let's see, I buy all the unfun stuff like dyes, paint and tools, etc and have spent as much as you have. so now you're getting the tack back, plus my time, AND I'm paying to ship it? What part of that is helping me?' I so wish I could take it back now but it just came out. And now she won't talk to me, on AIM or the phone. I was just so frustrated because i was trying to find some solution to the problem and had told her, she got ripped off by what is considered a reputable company, and I was willing to eat the costs with her, we were in this together. So at this point Sylvia, I'm finishing the blue set, should only take a couple days even if I'm extremely slow. I'm sending it back. I left a message on her phone I'd be here when she was ready to talk, and I'm moving forward. Just because the work occupies my time AND mind and I'm not mad. Confused, weird, crazy, and frustrated, but not mad. I totally agree with you, SOMEONE will buy a royal blue set of painted tack, even from India, but can you understand why I don't want that to be the first product Double C sells?
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Tribes people do eat culled elephant, they even eat poached ones when they come upon them. They even eat 70 year old ones that just fall over dead. Protein is protein.
Generally, bull elephants are the ones that are culled. The occasional rogue female is taken for safety or humanitarian reasons. These animals are totally consumed, ivory, skin (this is what we see) and bones (soup, tools, trinkets, etc.). When I say the tribes manage the herds, they actually do it scientifically and socially; there is considerable discussion and selection. They know their animals quite well and would only take a matriarch if she went rogue, they know what a decision like that means. Like I said before, the herds under management have increased.
There is good and bad in every situation.
Art
Art, I honestly didn't know that. For some reason that makes me happy. I never imagined it would be POSSIBLE to eat elephant just because of the way they look. You really know your stuff and I'm glad you bothered to explain it to me. Cheryl.
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Hi Cheryl,
In Africa, some of the governments have turned over management of the elephant population to local tribes. The tribes are taught species management and often sell tags for elephant the way we do here for moose elk sheep and bear. In lands managed by local tribes, the elephant population has increased because it is seen as a continuing resource, in other words, it provides income. Poaching in these areas has become a thing of the past because poachers disappear, or worse. Poachers are always in season in the areas and they know it. The tribes cull the overpopulation of elephants and any rogues that cause trouble. The culls are where the elephant panels come from. Look at them as a rather large version of the cow (however I wouldn't attempt to milk one).
When governments attempt the management of elephant herds, the poaching problem is much more prevalent, penalties for poaching are not nearly as severe as in tribe managed areas, and the government agents are not nearly as adept in the bush as indigenous tribesmen, nor as brutal.
When you buy a culled animal hide with a CITES tag, you are feeding an African tribesman. Poachers don't worry about CITES tags or any laws for that matter. Poachers seldom take the time to skin out an elephant, and there is too much further processing necessary to market it.
Art
Hi Art. The article I read recently must have been about the government run populations. And I know the government culls them too, or has in the past, with helicopters and just kills them and leaves everything. I've read and watched a lot of things about elephants and in their behavior they are so human like....only better somehow. It's not that I'm anti-social and don't like people Art. But the elephant herd is run by the oldest cow who knows where the food will be, and water during the year. When a bull calf gets to an age he becomes interested in his cousins, the lead cow makes him leave the herd which has kept the population stronger by preventing inbreeding. Over 100 years ago the African cow had tusks too, and was poached as well as the bulls. In less than 100 years, the African female calf started being born WITHOUT tusks. The African government tried to introduce elephants into a new area so they gather up teenagers and moved them there. Within two weeks they were running wild, knocking over trees and generally out of control. The put an older cow with them and the behavior stopped within 24 hours.
They've caught elephants on video coming upon a Government culled group, and the group carried the tusks into the, woods, trees, jungle? and hid them. it's as if they know why they're being hunted and culled.
I agree the solution they've come up with as far as turning the control over to tribes-people is a much better one. I also understand that to some culling them is no different than a zebra. Part of my problem Art is with the waste. They don't eat elephant meat, or I don't think the tribes-people do. And elephants are different than zebras. I don't think they've even found a way to measure an elephant's intelligence. I'm really not a PETA nut (not that I'm sure they're nuts) I just think the whole premise of Christine's book shows the problem between humans and animals. Not that it's Christine's fault, I'm expressing myself badly, it's just the disregard we have for life. It saddens me. Cheryl
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Good Morning -
I am not a leatherworker at all. Just a novelist who put in a plot device she doesn't fully understand. I am hoping to pick all your brains on the below questions.
I appreciate the time you would take to help me with all or some of the below. I know everyone is busy, and I'm not really a proper member here, nor am I a leatherworker. So I hope you can forgive the intrusion....okay here goes!
*Is there an endangered species skin that can be easily confusedwith a really nice version of another, permitted skin?
*What is a CITES cert? (I'm sure I'm saying this wrong) Is this something that will let an endangeredspecies skin through customs? How can it be allowed at all? What do they haveto certify? This seems crazy, but I'm totally uneducated on the subject. (maybeyou have a good link to the info?)
*Are ALL skins checked at customs? I'd like it if a small amount got throughand then the big shipment is blocked.
*What skin would you recommend? I'd like it to be so luxuriousthat when you touch it you say, "oh my god this is the nicest leather I haveEVER touched." And what country would it be from? I can easily have it comefrom one place, be dyed/tanned in another and shipped from a third – possiblywith a third treatment on it if necessary. No problem for the story.
Thanks in advance for your help.
You can check out my website at http://fashionismurder.com (the "murder" part refers to the murder mystery aspect of the books)
And you can look at the first book in the series here....http://www.amazon.com/Dead-New-Black-Fashion-Mysteries/dp/1466338121/
Have a great new year!
Hi Christine. This thread was so pertinent to me that I couldn't believe it. I just went to a leather company recommended on here and after I filled out my info to buy wholesale, I went to the home page to start to check out leather, and saw the had an elephant hide, or 1/2 or shoulder or belly, I really don't know. I shut the site down as I tried not to vomit. 2011 was the worst year in a long time for poaching African elephants and rhinos. Seems there's a recently wealthy Asian market that wants nice things, and are willing to pay for the poaching of tusks and horns. Ivory for obvious reasons, it's beautiful, and the rhino horns because it's believed to have medicinal power (actually I think some cultures think it's an aphrodisiac) which has been proven by 12 gazillion studies it doesn't have any, no, not none, buy Viagra.
I know I'm on a little rant here and will probably get BUSTED or at least accused of being one of those PETA fruitcakes, but I just had to jump in. And also because I am a 'recovering writer' LOL with a couple SS published, and I know what you're up against. Well I mean as far as research; I know nothing from fashion and the worst part is that most of the replies read like Greek to me and wouldn't ya know I took Latin? So I can't help you at all except give you some moral support and explain that however it's justified, leather comes from COWS and not animals whose flesh and bones rot away after being stripped of their skin. We drink cow milk, we eat cow meat, and we use their hides. Kinda like the way it used to be when the only people here were Native Americans. So if you get confused about what leather is, just let me know and I'll explain it again, LOL. Good luck on the new story. Cheryl
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heresa noseband i did for a customer for christmas. turned out pretty good i think.
Bronc, that is beautiful. Cheryl
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I still don't "get it".. sorry..... why don't you make your own tack, start out small with the finest leather and hardware and quality dyes and see where it goes from there?
From what I have read so far- there isn't a market for your things from any "hand" worth their salt. This sounds like fancy showy stuff, and from one who had years of working with and for those folks, they want top quality, even if it is so flashy that a cowman wouldn't be caught dead with it.
You might have a business there but you need to take a breather and figure out what YOU want to do and if there IS a market to make it profitable. Don't look at what you've spent in time and money already and try to make THAT your mission.
We've ALL made costly mistakes and wrong turns here but cut our losses and re-focused.
pete
You know Pete, I think that's wise advice. I can honestly say that every minute I put into this makes me madder and madder. And I don't want to 'waste' what I added up as around 22.00 of the nicest vintage 'bling' I have on this set. As far as I'm concerned, we could finish it up with just some paint, and maybe some of my conchos (that's how I started in leather work) and give it away to some people for testimonials as to the work I did on it, not the tack itself. Because it would be fine for training tack, etc. or even trail riding tack when you want to look good without bringing out your best stuff, gonna rain, etc. I think the testimonials would be worth more than what we could ever sell this for. I just wanted so much to make this better for Lacey because she's my friend, not just my partner. I know what I want to do. I want to make my own tack using good leather, and good hardware, and good and hopefully with help here to become better tooling, designing and carving. Thanks for answering me Pete. I'm going to copy and paste this to Lace and see how she responds. Cheryl
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I gather you not making this tack just buying cheap tack and jassing it up. What kind of paint are you using? Most paint will harm the leather if it isn't special made for leather. So if the paint is wrong nothing will protect it.
I don't think I expressed myself well Catskin. My partner bought these inexpensively on sale because I was going to visit her and she wanted something there to basically seal the deal. She didn't know there were more then inexpensive, but also cheap. She bought them from a reputable dealer and online they looked nice. She even bought herself a set.
When they got there, she took her set out to 'air' which still didn't tip her off, glanced at the other stuff, put them back in the bags and back in the box. When I got there, I took the first 'natural' set out, looked at it all over, and said, 'you didn't noticed this is uh, yellow?' She just looked at me funny. Then I said, 'this is a harder question but did you notice where they tried to hide the stamped India on the breast collar?' She grabbed it away from me, found the mark and I thought she was going to cry. Especially since we are all about buy American.
No we are not buying cheap tack and jazzing it up. It was an unfortunate mistake where a 'reputable' dealer bought some cheap tack, and passed it on as an incredible Christmas sale and my partner bought it. And now I'm stuck with the unfortunate task of trying to make it look good enough someone won't be ashamed to use it. We are NOT going to list it as anything other than what it is, made in India. It's sturdy, and it's painting up nice, although it's taking 3 coats to cover. Already finished off leather is hard to work with. You have to understand that was in the infancy of our planning the business, and we're now in the toddler stages.
I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to make my own tack. I have downloaded and read everything here that I could, read forums, and taken notes, and unfortunately spent more time here than working on the tack. All we want to do is make these sets nice enough that people with the facts will buy them and we can get our money back so I can buy my resellers license and leather.
I'm putting more time and money into the set than what I should but even though we could eat what we paid for these, I just can't waste things. I've been on disability for a long time and it's become a habit. The 'jazz' I'm putting on it is vintage baby blue and white milk glass connector beads, and vintage Swarovski navettes. I paid quite a bit for these as conchos decorations when that's all I was doing, making my own leather conchos. I'm attaching a picture of the design I came up with. Nothing leaves my house until I have it as nice and everything's as perfect on it as I can make it.
I'm using leather Eco-Flo paint from Tandy. So do you think Resolene will finish it off?
As an aside, the black set is now selling for 3 times as much on eBay although I noticed he's staying away from black. I took one of my white sox last night and rubbed it a little and the black is still coming off. I think the seller is making these and selling them, and it is a very nice set he didn't finish well, got frustrated with, and just wanted to get his money back I imagine. The design is crisp, and the leather is very soft and supple. It's NOT from India and after I put some work into it, is going to be a beautiful set. I plan to just work on it at nights watching TV, rubbing, rubbing, and rubbing some more after I let the new coat of USMC black dry. From some of the threads I've read, the black coming off is a common problem so this will be a longer project until I get all the dye rubbed in well, rhinestones added, and a coat of Resolene on it, but it's going to be a beauty.
The picture is dark because I turned my flash off. With the flash you couldn't see the milk glass and navettes. But it's the Royal Blue Eco-Flo, and I'm painting the leather keepers white, also Eco-Flo
Thanks for taking time to write, Cheryl
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No problem, Cheryl,
It only took 30 seconds in gimp.
Just really liked the artwork =)
Me too :-( Emailing partner about the comments now Chavez
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Well after you peruse the adult section Double C may end up changing their target marketing LOL
ROFL, at this point anything could happen. The excitement of a baby business, how will it grow up? Cheryl
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I voted for the template because it seems like it has some emotion to it, although I like the idea of a simple line drawing. If you go to the adult section (if you can) and the tattoo flash, hammerhead has some "nude cowgirls" posted that he tooled and I immediately thought of one of his pic's when I saw your poll. The one I'm referring to is the one on the far right in his first post. I think something like that from the shoulders up would be a nice line drawing for a "couture" site. maybe not the main pic/logo but anyway just my 2 cents
Hi again Scary. I'm sorry I was so flippant, didn't realize you need admin permission to get in the adult forum. So I've PM admin. Thanks, Cheryl
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I voted for the template because it seems like it has some emotion to it, although I like the idea of a simple line drawing. If you go to the adult section (if you can) and the tattoo flash, hammerhead has some "nude cowgirls" posted that he tooled and I immediately thought of one of his pic's when I saw your poll. The one I'm referring to is the one on the far right in his first post. I think something like that from the shoulders up would be a nice line drawing for a "couture" site. maybe not the main pic/logo but anyway just my 2 cents
LOL, Scary, I'm old enough to be your uh, really old aunt! I will go and look and see what hammerhead has. Well that's assuming I can FIND it. For my first week here I thought this forum ended at the first brown line. That's for telling me about his stuff and taking the time to respond. Cheryl
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Just a thought.... Tool her drawing in leather, take a picture and use that.
yeah/no?
Bill
DO WHAT? Oh my, is the leatherworker forum, I thought it was dabbling around. LOL.
I think that is such a good idea Bill I want to get offline and start it. I honestly do. When we first came up with the name Double C Cowgirl Couture (Conn and Crossan) it took a friend of mine to send me a graphic of double horseshoes (doesn't know a rein from the horses tail, but always helping me) for me to do that 'slap upside your forehead DUH.' I use a horse shoe stamp on the back of everything now, overlapping them. I can't believe what a good idea this is and how it should have been right in front of my face, or at least my workbench. I will see if she minds if I do it that way and then it'll be on me see? How can her sketch not be done if I'm the one reproducing it in leather. Man my forehead is gonna be flat if this keeps up!!!!
Cheryl -
find a way to polish / smooth the lines of the art work, it looks great,,,
if enlarged it will need, "" little work""",,,ihmo
GREAT logo to identify your company
factor it in to a site template and go,,,
best of luck David
Thank you David. It is the background on the site we're (well mostly me right now because she's so busy with her other job) building right now. Google has the 'placeholder' templates I found and used that, then uploaded this into it. But she says it looks like a 5 YO did the site. But that's Lacey, you can always count on her honesty if not politeness at all times :-) I think it's more her not feeling the sketch is finished than any intention to be rude. I told her I was going to do this poll, and abide by whatever the results were if she would. I think her 'doodle' as she calls it is is awesome, but I also understand wanting something to be perfect. I would be upset if she put a product up that I didn't feel I had 'finished' yet.
Maybe some of everyone's kind and supportive remarks will at least get her to finish it to the point we can use it for our logo even if she still wants a template. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Cheryl
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I think it's beautiful Sylvia. I'm not sure I would have had the guts to under cut it now that I even know what it means. Will you put a pic up after it's dyed? Cheryl