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205-370 refusing to take 794 system needles?
HENDREFORGAN posted a topic in Leather Sewing MachinesWe bought a second hand 205-370 last Autumn and it's been more than a bit of a hassle getting some parts, needles, etc. for it here in the UK. They're truly quite a rare beast here. With some other work getting in the way before we put "The Beast" to full occupation it's not been until the last few weeks we've been using it regularly . . and we've hit numerous issues . . but the one that has us stumped is that it cannot use the "794 system" needles! WTF!!! That is the chosen, recommended size - indeed only size we think - for this machine. We didn't pay much attention to the needles the machine came with at first, the machine was fitted with a fat one used to produce the grey upholstery hide sample it arrived with and the opened and unopened packets of needles in it's drawer were round point for clothing only. We believe the previous owners used the 205 for work of a lighter nature than what it is capable of and what we bought it for, we need to use the 205 for heavy harness leather work, this machine is only one of two worldwide that it the ultimate for this work and we do know it's strength means it'll still sew when others will grind to a halt. So any issue with needles is worrying. To that end we purchased various points of new needles of the correct size for the 205, this machine uses the 794 range, no other "system" is recommended. We then also sourced the correct, heavier "button twist" type of thread that is OK for the 205 and we need for heavy leather-work. We fitted our first needle and set up the machine to sew only to find that the first needle broke almost immediately, another fitted showed instantly that it's diamond point was burred over. We checked that we were fitting the needles correctly - we were - and our timing, etc. was spot on. It is then we looked in more depth at the needles the 205 came with. They were a completely different system. The one fitted for the leather sample was a Singer 250/27 whilst the packets in the drawer were Schmetz "System 7x23", they were all size 180/24. These are all too small, technically, the 205 was showing it's great aptitude to be tolerant we think. Popping open the cover at the end of the cylinder arm we fitted a new needle and moved it slowly by hand. The needle, a GB 200 leather point, was TOO LONG and it's point was first glancing off the bobbin shuttle and then colliding with the swing hinge for that part. So we fitted one of the 180/24 needles and that cleared all obstructions. So now we know why this 205 came with the wrong sizes of needles. But the 205 is designed to use ONLY a 794 "system" needle. The pair of us took time out one day to fully go through the 205's whole needle and shuttle/hook assembly carefully taking notes and photo's and we hope eventually got some answers. A few of these photo's are attached beneath our text, "A" shows that we're missing the two ring spacers and that the inner ring is simply pushed too far forward . . by it's four springs maybe? "B" shows the needle size that came with the machine passing the bobbin shuttle whilst "C" shows the "794" hitting the same part. "D" shows the two needle sizes side by side and a better view of the "794" hitting the side of the bobbin shuttles hinge . . the inevitable happens each time. This is where we think this 205 is "going wrong". The Machine's bobbin housing sits too far forward and is not spring loaded as it should be, this is totally proven by some of Uwe's video. The grub screw in the side of the cylinder arm which locks the mechanism is not performing as it should it almost misses the inner ring completely when it's required to hold that assembly - so the bobbin housing may be in the wrong place. Incidentally the one shown in our pix is a temporary machine screw replacement to help it work . . the fitted grub screw has a chamfered point. There are also two spring spacers missing and the four small springs behind the hook assembly may also be wrong too. Whilst the needle/hook will collect the bobbin thread the correct needle collides with the bobbin case and, when the smaller incorrectly sized needles that came with the 205 are used, whilst these needles don't hit anything they do drop lower stitches from time to time. Needle too short? This may also be why the two needle protection spacers originally fitted are far too big at the pair totalling 3.60 mm, they don't as such effect sewing but they do an important role in sewing heavy work. They prevent the needle breaking under deflection by weight, so this 205 has the maximum spacing . . was this to try and solve the mechanical issues breaking needles? We would VERY much appreciate ANY input to solving our issue from fellow forum members . . thank you.
Ludwig 205-370 (Adler Clone) for sale $1,500.00
evandailey posted a topic in Old/SoldAfter much debate I have decided to try and sell my Ludwig 205-370 heavy duty cylinder arm leather stitcher. Due to time constraints from my job I am just not doing enough leather work anymore to justify keeping it and I could really use the room in my shop, so I will sadly let it go. This machine is an exact copy of the Adler 205-370 and operates just as smoothly as the actual Adler I tried at Weaver Leather. It is in fantastic condition and has no issues. If you're not familiar with this model, they will do everything one of the 441 / "Class 4" machines will do and run smoother while doing it. The machine includes a swing-away edge guide, an adjustable height table/stand, auto-bobbin winder, speed reducer, and a quality servo motor. I have a few different presser feet and feed dogs for it, several packages of needles, a few spools of bonded nylon thread, and several bobbins. I also have the Weaver timing device and digital copies of the Adler manuals. I am asking $1,500.00 for the machine and all the accessories I have for it. It would be a tremendous effort to break this thing down and crate it to ship because it's HEAVY and BIG, so I would really prefer local pickup. However, if someone is willing to pay for the effort required to ship it I am willing to do the work as a last resort. I am located near Huntington, WV. Feel free to ask any questions you have about it or if you'd like to see any other pictures. I am not in a bind or "needing" to sell it in any way, so I'm not going to accept any low-ball offers. If I can't get within reason of what it is worth for it, I'll just cover it up and keep it. If interested you can message me here, email me at evandailey@suddenlink dot net, or call or text at 304-six33-489two.
Owner & Service Manual For Durkopp Adler 204/205-370
Uwe posted a topic in Leather Sewing MachinesAfter fretting that no owner manual exists online for the old Pfaff 335 I realized that there wasn't one available online for my own Durkopp Adler 205-370, either. So I scanned in my printed Durkopp Adler 204/205-370 Owner Manual and uploaded it here: http://docs.uwe.net/Durkopp Adler Owner Manual 204-370 205-370.pdf I had also found a Durkopp Adler 205-370 Service Manual in PDF format some time ago. I uploaded it here: http://docs.uwe.net/Durkopp Adler Service Manual 204-370 205-370.pdf Both manuals have five language sections: German, English, Spanish , French, Italian There are reference photos are at the end of each manual. I also uploaded both PDFs to http://www.ManualsLib.com, so they may appear there too.
Durkopp Adler 205-370Hello everyone!! I bought this Adler 205-370 Machine as well as a Juki Lu-562. The Juki is perfect for the work I am doing so I am looking to sell my beloved 205-370, I am really in no super hurry to sell it since I love using it so much. It's just allot of machine and I am under using it, this thing is nothing short of amazing! it will sew through anything!!. I do however think there may be some people on this forum that would actually benefit from this beast of a machine and actually use it to its full potential. I am looking to sell it for 3,700.00 i will entertain all reasonable best offers or cash plus trades for Corvette C5 performance parts, superchargers, headers, heads, intakes etc......I am trying to drop a 600hp engine in my vette and this will help foot the bill. If I can't sell it I I may be open to a trade for a good dual needle machine for some perfect french stiches plus some cash. Please feel free to call me anytime at 469.212.3175. I am local to the San Fran cisco bay area, stationed here with the NAVY (hence the TX area code). pick up and delivery would be the responsibility of the buyer. Call or text any time!!! The machine looks about new and runs like new, it runs puuuuurfectly!!!!! This machine blew me away with its capablities, various stitch lengths, speeds, I am including various walking feet, rollore giud, full bench motor , tons of bobbins and needles...everything you need to start sewing with this beast!!!do not miss out!! 469.212.3175 pictures posted soon