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This is part two of many posts like this until I find a machine for me and get a handle more on leather machine sin gnereal. It’s rare that a nice used cylinder arm machine becomes available around here. I’ve started prototyping bag patterns to sell. Both vegtan and chrome tanned. I've posted about Pfaff and other cylinder arm machines available on Craigslist previously. Spotted this machine available nearby. Has anyone used a Necchi cylinder arm machine for leather bag making? This is the Necchi 840-100 model. Looks brand new despite its age. It’s a lower barrier to entry for me rather than a new machine, but obviously there’s no warranty. Seller says they have spare parts and manual. Clearly I’d need to add a servo and speed reducer. Question: 1. how rare are these parts? 2. Is this a good machine for a person like me? 3. what do you think it’s worth? Any info is helpful. Thanks.
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Hi everyone, This is my first time posting here and I need some expert's advice on this matter. I found an Adler 069-373 cylinder arm industrial sewing machine on eBay and the seller is not far from where I stay - Edinburgh, UK (about 15' drive) The seller is offering to install a silent motor on (instead of the clutch motor) and change the binding attachment you see on the photo for a normal one. His offer is £900 with free delivery and 6 months warranty. This will be my first cylinder arm machine, my only experience with sewing machines is my very old singer 99k. I want to use this machine for waxed canvas and some leatherwork where canvas meets the leather and maybe use it more often for leather straps and/or belts. So I can get this machine or go for the Tysew TY-3600C-1 for £1.300+ (new). They say Adler parts are available in the UK same as for the Tysew, since Tysew is based in UK. I will avoid the good and trusted American brands since I cannot get much support from where I stay, neither parts as far as I am aware. Any expert to help me with this please? Is this a good deal? The seller said he bought it 2 years ago from London and fixed it, but he didn't tell me what he fixed. This is his side hustle he added, buying old machines, fixes them and sells them for some extra money. Shall I go for this deal or go for something else? Thank you
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Hello I have been thinking for a while what post machine to get and even thought about getting a Chinese clone from alibaba. But I'm to worrisome for that and now I think I am willing to spend 3k for a machine (a little more maybe). I mainly want to sew work boots in the vicinity of 7-8 oz leather and would like to make bison boots which are 8-9 oz. Roughly since I will be sewing two layers of leather I want something that can sew 16 or 18 oz leather. To my understanding the techsew 830 meets my needs, but I don't know if I should get a cylinder arm sewing machine instead because I am also interested in making wallets and other small things. I do not know if my interest in wallets is hungry enough, but the idea of being able to do other things with a cylinder also calls my attention. Then again I have heard that a post bed sewing machine with a roller foot is really nice to sew shoes, but I have never really heard whether or not a shoe can be made in a cylinder arm with a walking foot. Will it be too difficult? I seek advice on what you would do in my case. I have even been thinking of the cowboy cb4500 because of the ability to use the specialized foot to sew uppers to outsoles, but don't know if the machine will be too much machine to make shoes. Thank you for any opinions!
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Recently purchased a 153k103 cylinder arm walking foot machine. The machine worked fine days before I picked it up and brought it over to my place. The walking foot is stuck in the up position and lever behind it isn’t working, no tension. The pedal is connected as should be but I don’t feel any tension whenever the pedal is pressed, I have a feeling something is stuck. Not much of a mechanic and the manuals don’t explain much on these matters. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Hello, I am a newby to leather sewing machines. I am buying an Adler Cylinder Arm 49-2 and would love more information on it. I have been searching the net but no luck. Looking to see if Singer made an equivalent. Looking for a manual. And looking for any opinions. I have attached a picture.TIA
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Photos of the leak and lubrication system: https://imgur.com/a/ZIpNo72 Longtime lurker, first time poster. I purchased a new Sunstar KM-380 BL-B cylinder arm machine in January 2020. I learned about the machine on here (thanks!) and it's been great, especially for the price. Synchronized binder works well, thread tension is good, and no issues going through lots of thick nylon materials like Cordura and webbing. The issue I'm having is that is regularly leaks oil in a few places. The primary leak is at the bottom of the bobbin case onto the foot pedal, the oil usually pooling on the back wall of the head, down the swing-up roller guide and foot, and into the bottom of the bobbin cover and then slowly dripping down from the bobbin case bottom and holes at the bottom of the arm. The other leak happens in the area of the body with the upright shaft- there's an oil pan at the base but oil will pool within a few hours and also leak from the rear of the hinge and down to the bottom of the machine base. I stay on top of it but it will literally drain a full oil tank in a week or two and it doesn't matter if I'm sewing or not. I have inspected the wick sysem the best I can, noticed no cracks in the oil resevoir, moved the wicks slightly so they're away from the walls, and still have consistent leaking. I've checked the oil pan regularly while sewing and will still notice it leaking near the rear hinge bolts which leads me to believe at least some oil is going down the back wall of the body toward the base. I purchased locally here in Los Angeles and can bring it in for servicing but trying to avoid doing that for a few weeks, unfortunately right after I purchased this machine the pandemic started so that hampered things. Hoping it's an easy fix, I know some people on here are familiar with the machine and this is the best resource for cylinder arm info on the internet. Checked the lubrication system against the one in the parts manual and nothing looked off: https://www.jati.su/files/sunstar_detailing/KM-380BL_380BLB_PME.pdf My next plan was to stuff the machine with cotton fabric overnight, let it soak up any extra oil on the felt pads, and try it again. I might have over-oiled in the beginning (coming from my Juki 1541s which likes oil) but have ran the machine a bunch and let it 'dry out' a bit between oilings but never ran it on an empty resevoir out of fear of damaging the internals. I have always followed the oiling instructions from the manual. None of the manuals have troubleshooting for oil leaks and googling hasn't shown me any working solutions so far. Thanks, appreciate any help and insight!
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Looking to buy a Techsew 2750 Pro or similar model cylinder arm machine. Located in central Georgia.
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Hi All, I am ordering my first industrial compound feed cylinder arm machine, the SEIKO LSC-8B-2! While I have done my fair share of research of this machine, It would be great to hear of ANY advice dedicated to this model to assist me or anyone else interested in this machine in the future. Now, I was in a dilemma on which model to get; the 8B-2 (standard sewing) or 8BV-2 (sychronised binder). I asked SEIKO Japan via email if 8BV-2 can do standard sewing and sync binding, and the response I got was: "In LSC-8BV-2 case, sewing may be difficult by material" ...I suppose LSC 8BV-2 is intended for sync binding only/primarily. However, my local sales advisor said LSC 8BV-2 can do standard sewing and sync binding (I was wary of this answer, perhaps the advisor just wanted me to buy the higher priced model...). I wanted a machine that can do both 'modes' professionally. I want to get the most from a single machine and buying two machines is not viable at the moment; money and space does not allow! ...So I did my own youtube research of both models... There are a few youtube sewing demos of SEIKO LSC 8B-2. As well as LSC 8BV-2, that demonstrates standard sewing (no sync binding operation in sight) and it looks perfect; stitch quality and material feeding are agreeable! At this point, I was conflicted with what I have been told and what I have seen. However, I made my final decision based on SEIKO Japan agent's advice and got the LSC 8B-2. I also read another thread from this website in regards to the difference between sync binding and standard models which also informed my decision. Has anyone else been in this position? Or can a specialist provide any advice? Machine aside, can anyone provide advice for: Swing away binder Where can I buy it online? Any advice with installing? Flatbed attachment Where can I buy it online? I asked my local sales advisor about this attachment and was quoted $1,300 AUD for it... Ridiculous! Suspending edge guide Where can I buy it online? I asked my local sales advisor about this attachment and was quoted $430 AUD for it. There must be a less expensive option... I have searched ebay already for these items with mixed results. Hence my reaching out to any LSC 8B-2 specialists here to provide a direct lead to compatible and fair-priced pieces. Hopefully this thread can demystify this machine. I look forward to any responses. Kind regards Rod
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This is for sale 1hr from me, is it worth it, and he says it works and to make offer was reasonable and what to look for if I go https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/783470918908546/
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Hi everyone So I really hope someone can help me with info on a pfaff 335-9B H2L. I was able to purchase the machine from someone selling it on gumtree for $290 which I think is a bargain. I cleaned and oiled the machine, had to make some timing adjustments, now it's working great! I googled the model but was unable to find anything. So if anyone can provide me with some info I would greatly appreciate it!
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So I finally spent some time trying to understand industrial sewing machine needle sizes and systems. As a reference I’d spent some time going through the information shared on the needles and threads sticky post linked here from 2011: Here has been the main thread for this machine: I bought this machine used (obviously) but the few needles that came with it are nearly unmarked and are about 1.52” long. So I wanted to share with you what I’m doing to find out what size these last few existing needles are that I have that go in my Pfaff 335 clone (it’s a Necchi 840-100 rotating bindery cylinder arm machine). I’d actually purchased a full set of 135 x16 (common needles for walking foot machines for use on the leather, in place of the 135X 17 needles). These are about 1.7” long. These needles were too long. I actually had to adjust the Needle bar very high to allow these larger needles to work. As I adjusted this, the Needle bar eventually touched the top of the machine Case and I realized this wasn’t going to work. I couldn’t find needles that matched the 134 needle system that the Necchi manual described. Eventually I found some! Here are the next set of needles I’m trying: “10 Groz-Beckert Gebedur 134 135X5 DPX5 Titanium Sewing Needles SINGER PFAFF JUKI” https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0759VHZVP/ let me know what you’ve used on this machine or similar. BONUS: if you’ve read this far and you’d like an assortment of 50 various Organ needles for 135x16tri in sizes 16, 18, 20, 21, 23 (I’ve only used two or so) …you can have them! heres a pic of those: dm me your address and I’ll get them shipped! Best first offer or free! Luke
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Hi Leatherworkers, I have a practically unused Techsew 2700 Pro for sale. This is a cylinder bed, compound walking foot, industrial sewing machine for light and medium leather. It will sew up to 3/8” thickness. It has a reinforced U table, Smartservo-NP motor (needle positioning), reverse stitch, TS-28 LED work lamp, TLG laser guide, swing-down roller guide, flatbed table attachment, bobbin winder and thread stand. An awesome machine! The cylinder arm is 10.5 inches long and 2.5 inches in diameter. Also included are a left toe zipper foot, premium needles and several spools of thread. I received this machine in November of 2017, but was not able to start using it until January of 2018. I have had very little time to use it and won’t have for the foreseeable future, so I am selling it now. It has had approximately 10 hours of use. It has been oiled regularly and is really a brand new machine. Please see photo below which shows the flatbed table attachment in place. I have many photos, but due to size constraints could only attach one. I am asking $2000. I’m in northern Colorado and hope to find a buyer within pick-up distance to avoid shipping.
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Hello! We are a small leather goods manufacturer and we are consolidating our machine inventory! We have several industrial machines available. All machines are in used, working condition and are sold as-is. They have all been in use in a production facility most recently in December 2018. Please DM me if you would like more information in regard to pricing and photos. Please make an offer! If you are in the Twin Cities area, we would be happy to coordinate a showing for you. Please arrange your own pick up/delivery/shipping - we have a loading dock for convenience. Cash only. We have the following machines for sale: Leather Machinery Fortuna 3443 Band Knife Splitter United-Carr M 235 Kickpress Judson L. Thomson 21. 2776 Kickpress Prym Press Pneumatic Snap Setter Schaefer TC 15 Topside Cementer Franklin Imprinting Machines A11593041 Hot Stamper Kwik Print 425 Hot Stamper Central Machine 37151 Metal Cutting Band Saw (x2) WSK PP-34F Pneumatic Embossing Machine (x2) USM Emhart Clicker Model B Brute Eastman Class 627 Table Knife Royersford Excelsior No. 10 Kickpress United-Carr M235 Kickpress Sewing Machinery (x3) Adler 267 Walking Foot - $900 Consew 206RB Walking Foot - $700 Consew 227R Walking Foot Cylinder Arm - $1,400 (x2) Juki LU-563 Walking Foot - $900 Juki DLN-415-4 Needle Feed, 220V - $750 (x5) Seiko STH-8BLD-3 Walking Foot - $900 (x2) Seiko LSWN-8BL-3 Walking Foot - $1,100 Seiko LSWN-8BL-3 Walking Foot, HEAD ONLY - $700 Singer 111W151 Needle Feed - $500 NEW - Typical GC2263V Walking Foot Cylinder Arm - $2,000 Thank you for your interest!
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Hi All, I am looking buying a second hand what appears to be a little-used Wimsew 246. It will be my first venture into an industrial unit. I've been looking for the right 2nd hand machine for some months and this the latest offering in the classifieds. It will be used on a low volume home-based craft manufacturer, making bags, wallets. I want to be able to do top threads and usual stitching. This will range from size #/tkt60 -10, with needle sizes 14/90 - 25/200 (or maybe 24/180 at a push) Can anyone offer a view if this machine will be suitable? Part of the reason I've come on here for advice is that there doesn't seem to be a manual available online. I've contacted Wimsew and they say they only supply one with a new machine which is a little frustrating. I know it's very similar to a Juki 246 (a clone), but I don't know just how similar. A Juki seems to be able to do what I'm after. Given I want to move between these sizes, will the timing of any parts need to be adjusted to move between these sizes? I'm going to take my materials and threads in the next day or so and have a go, but I wonder if anyone has any experience or views. Many thanks and this is a fab website, where I've gained lots of help, ideas and advice. Paul
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Hey, hoping to get some opinions on Yamata cylinder arm sewing machines. They keep popping up in my search (on the market for a refurbished machine) I can't find any reliable reviews. What is the shank, max needle size, and is it over all a decent machine?? I work with veg tan 9oz max, bags mostly. Any opinion helps, thank you!
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Listing for a 96 year old retired leatherworker and saddlemaker in Northern California. The ferdco has a ton of accessories I’ve included one page of the original invoice. The sewing machines are low hour and well maintained as for prices let me know about prices I don’t want my friend to get ripped off or taken advantage of, or maybe his prices are too high, any advice is appreciated. I'm sure any of these machines would come with any of their accessories like rivets, thread, needles, and anything else he has for them, He's been selling everything in his shop. Pics https://imgur.com/gallery/ZIZqXOz Ferdco $3500 Adler $2500 Stimpson riveter $850
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Okay, I’ve been on the fence about a flatboed vs a cylinder arm with table adapter. But then I see this and I’ve made up my mind.
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Consew 227R, not sure of age but in good working order. Speed reducer, table, flat top attachment. Moving shop to a smaller location or it would not be for sale. I am out of room. Pick up in Western, NC. $1050.00
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We are selling a brand new Artisan 335 B Ped 500. Purchased in November, turns out it wasn't what we needed. Selling for $1,300 OBO. Local pick-up only! We are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, California. Contra Costa County. Make: Artisan Model: S-335 BP Condition: New / Like New - 100% - Only has about 10 hours of use Description from Artisan: Cylinder Bed, Big "M" sized Bobbin, Medium/Heavy Duty Walking Foot, Compound Needle Feed, (Unison Feed) Lockstitch Sewing Machine with a Large Thread Capacity, Big Size, Rotating Hook Mechanism. Includes a lever operated stitch length mechanism with a reverse feed regulator for back tacking and stitching in reverse. Some additional features of the 335 B include a semi-automatic lubrication system, a synchronized binder mechanism (folder optional) and the machine sews thread from as small as size z-46 up to a large diameter size of z-207 in the needle with up to a maximum size of z-138 in the bobbin. All types of leathers or fabrics as light as a sheet or two of paper and up to just over 3⁄8" thick of leather or fabrics. ACF-625 Digital Electronic A.C. Servo Motor Drive System. Locking caster wheels, storage drawer and additional accessories: needles, bobbins, a spool of thread and operators manuals. Replacement spare parts are similar to the German manufactured Pfaff model 335 series sewing machines. Includes flat bed "Work Platform" which transforms the cylinder bed surface of the sewing machine into a flat bed surface converting the cylinder bed style into a flat bed style sewing machine. More information from Artisan: http://www.artisansew.com/cylinderarmandpostbedmachine.html Thank You, please reach out with any questions you may have.
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We are selling a brand new Artisan 335 B Ped 500. Purchased in November, turns out it wasn't what we needed. Selling for $1,300 OBO. Local pick-up only! We are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, California. Contra Costa County. Make: Artisan Model: S-335 BP Condition: New / Like New - 100% - Only has about 10 hours of use Description from Artisan: Cylinder Bed, Big "M" sized Bobbin, Medium/Heavy Duty Walking Foot, Compound Needle Feed, (Unison Feed) Lockstitch Sewing Machine with a Large Thread Capacity, Big Size, Rotating Hook Mechanism. Includes a lever operated stitch length mechanism with a reverse feed regulator for back tacking and stitching in reverse. Some additional features of the 335 B include a semi-automatic lubrication system, a synchronized binder mechanism (folder optional) and the machine sews thread from as small as size z-46 up to a large diameter size of z-207 in the needle with up to a maximum size of z-138 in the bobbin. All types of leathers or fabrics as light as a sheet or two of paper and up to just over 3⁄8" thick of leather or fabrics. ACF-625 Digital Electronic A.C. Servo Motor Drive System. Locking caster wheels, storage drawer and additional accessories: needles, bobbins, a spool of thread and operators manuals. Replacement spare parts are similar to the German manufactured Pfaff model 335 series sewing machines. Includes flat bed "Work Platform" which transforms the cylinder bed surface of the sewing machine into a flat bed surface converting the cylinder bed style into a flat bed style sewing machine. More information from Artisan: http://www.artisansew.com/cylinderarmandpostbedmachine.html Thank You, please reach out with any questions you may have
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For sale is a brand new (only used 2 times) Cowboy 3200 cylinder bed sewing machine. Seriously, I only made on holster and one belt on this machine. It's literally brand new still. I bought this new from Ryan Neele and within 1 week of owning it, I ran across another machine that is larger and that I originally wanted. Since purchasing the new machine, I do not need the Cowboy 3200. It come will all accessories from the factory. Plus, the belt makers kit ($180) and the flat top conversion table ($120). Asking $1700, (you can save $300 plus the normal $225 shipping on this one) I will drive within 3-4 hours to meet someone on this deal. Also, I will traveling to many place in upcoming weeks. I'm happy to meet anyone along the way. Western KY to Northern Western KY to Mobile, AL Western KY to central Kansas
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I have been asked lately to repair Hockey equipment . The final step quite often is edge binding. I have a Binder mounted on Adler 267/373 table top machine and it works very well for product you can fit into the sewing area. When I do large Goalie pads , Blocker Mitts and Catcher Mitts, unless I completely disassemble them I am unable to get them near the Binder. I am shopping for a Cylinder arm machine with a binder. Is there anybody here that would have a suggestion where to start? I have an Artisan 4000 (large frame chinese copy of a Juki 441 ) could a binder be applied to the Artisan?
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PFAFF 335G-6/01 BLN - LIKE NEW. Pfaff single needle cylinder arm walking foot. Complete on RUC with 1060x500 table top G60 position motor and LED light. Drop Down Edge Guide 20 spools of 40T & 60T thread 20 packs of GROZ-BECKERT quality needle 36 additional bobbins and 2 bobbin cases Manuals and extra walking foot provided I used to work from home and so I had a lot of free time to craft. I love sewing and I love leather. My husband bought this machine for me as a present. Hardly used since purchased as my health deteriorated the past years. I now have to give up this machine because we're moving to Thailand, I cannot afford to ship it with us. Asking price: EUR1,800.00
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This is my first post, so here it goes. I am hoping to get some advice on buying the correct machine for my needs. I only have experience with flatbed machines and I've never used a cylinder arm machine before. So some advice would be great. The type of products I have been making include laptop bags, tablet sleeves, wallets, duffel bags and some handbags. I am looking to start manufacturing a variety of products and a lot more handbags. From what I gather most people who stitch handbags use cylinder arm machines. Now my question is; would a cylinder arm be able to do what a flatbed machine can do? Are cylinder arm machines as powerful as flatbed machines? Any advice would be great! FYI, I have been running a leather manufacturing business for someone else, and I am starting my own business now, that is why I need to purchase the correct machine.
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i'm selling a almost new Pfaff 335 walking foot cylinder arm machine with the the oscillating binder attachment. It's a fantastic machine but it doesn't have enough pull for binding the seams( bought to set up as a dedicated binder) of my backpacks and bike bags. you can see my work www.alpineluddites.com, just so you have a reference for the type of items i was using it on. I know now it's a better leather machine than nylon from friends who own small production facilities here in Colorado. My staple machine is the Consew206RB-5 which just plows through anything with #69 & 92 thread. I also use it for sewing on leather patches and bottoms on some of my packs too. so I have 20 hours of actual sewing time on the this machine. Has the Pfaff anti knock off sticker. 3/4 hp servo. has both oscillating binder and regular plate and feet. located in Colorado. asking $1900
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