Members Patrick1 Posted August 29, 2022 Members Report Posted August 29, 2022 I'm doing a small run of Narrow feed dog flat plates for Cowboy CB4500 and Cobra class 3 and 4. Material is 304 stainless. $120.00 ea. Quote
Doc Reaper Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 I’m still waiting on a sale so I can buy from you, Quote Doc Reaper
Northmount Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 @Patrick1 Moved this post to leather sewing machines so it doesn't get archived in old/sold and so you maybe get a little more exposure here. Quote
glamb Posted December 31, 2022 Report Posted December 31, 2022 How much are these flat plates and what’s the width of slot in needle plate width of feed dog? Quote
Members Patrick1 Posted January 1, 2023 Author Members Report Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) The slot is .221 wide and can be purchase at https://heprecision.com/ price is stainless $70.00 for stainless and $55.00 black oxide finish plus shipping Edited January 1, 2023 by Patrick1 price Quote
Members SewMuchToLearn Posted January 4, 2023 Members Report Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) @Patrick1 I'm interested in your narrow needle plate and feed dog systems. My machine is a TechSew 5100, which I believe is comparable to the Cowboy 4500 / Cobra Class 4. I see at your website that you have two types -- Xtreme narrow and Standard narrow. 1) Can you help me understand when someone would use standard narrow vs xtreme narrow? My intuition is to go with the xtreme narrow, but is there any advantage to having more open space around the needle? I make bags and sometimes when I try to stitch close to the edge, the leather folds down into the open area around the needle, so that's why I'm looking at narrow needle plates in the first place. 2) I see that your needle plates that come with the feed dogs are flat, not rounded (aside from the holster plate which I'm not interested in right now) -- is the flat plate functionally different than a rounded plate? Can you help me understand why someone would use a flat plate vs the rounded plate? I see that you also make an xtreme narrow rounded plate, but it has to be used with the xtreme narrow feed dogs. What's the use case for that rounded plate? 3) What are pros/cons to stainless steel over black oxide finish (aside from price)? 4) What's the slot size in the xtreme narrow and standard narrow plates? Thank you for any info you can share! I'm posting here rather than emailing your directly in case others have similar questions. Edited January 4, 2023 by SewMuchToLearn Quote
Members Patrick1 Posted January 4, 2023 Author Members Report Posted January 4, 2023 The Xtreme narrow eliminates 1/6 in slot width and the slot in the feed dog is also smaller but can take a 200/25 needle and 277 thread. Doesn't sound like much but it is when sewing thin leather. I use the Xtreme narrow for everything up to a 277 thread and have no issues with it sewing the thick stuff. The feed dogs have the same radius as the round plates. A lot people prefer the flat plates as I do. The round plate gives you more clearance than a flat plate and conforms to the idea of a cylinder machine. I have had a few customers that wanted the round plate with the Xtreme narrow plate so I made them. I started making flat plates for the standard narrow feed dog because no on makes them and people were asking for them. I'm phasing out the black oxide finish because people prefer the stainless and actually more expensive for me to produce when I figure the time it takes to add the finish. If you look at the internals of your machine the majority of the parts are black oxide finish, it prevents corrosion. The slot size with the Xtreme narrow is .160 of an inch and .221 on my narrow plates. Quote
Members Burkhardt Posted January 5, 2023 Members Report Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Patrick1 said: The Xtreme narrow eliminates 1/6 in slot width and the slot in the feed dog is also smaller but can take a 200/25 needle and 277 thread. Doesn't sound like much but it is when sewing thin leather. I use the Xtreme narrow for everything up to a 277 thread and have no issues with it sewing the thick stuff. The feed dogs have the same radius as the round plates. A lot people prefer the flat plates as I do. The round plate gives you more clearance than a flat plate and conforms to the idea of a cylinder machine. I have had a few customers that wanted the round plate with the Xtreme narrow plate so I made them. I started making flat plates for the standard narrow feed dog because no on makes them and people were asking for them. I'm phasing out the black oxide finish because people prefer the stainless and actually more expensive for me to produce when I figure the time it takes to add the finish. If you look at the internals of your machine the majority of the parts are black oxide finish, it prevents corrosion. The slot size with the Xtreme narrow is .160 of an inch and .221 on my narrow plates. Would you sell the pieces without any type of finish on them vs the stainless pricing? Quote
Members Patrick1 Posted January 5, 2023 Author Members Report Posted January 5, 2023 No, the black oxide coated plates are made of low carbon steel and rust easily if not treated. I still have some black oxide plates in stock and will remove them from my website when they are all sold. The feed dogs are have a black oxide finish and are made of 4142 pre heat treated chrome moly steel. Quote
Members msdeluca Posted September 24, 2023 Members Report Posted September 24, 2023 Do you make a narrow plate for the Cowboy 3200? Quote Michael www.conceptleather.blogspot.com www.temptedthreads@blogspot.com
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