Contributing Member fredk Posted July 6, 2023 Contributing Member Report Posted July 6, 2023 Hand sew the second time? Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members GatoGordo Posted July 6, 2023 Members Report Posted July 6, 2023 5 hours ago, GatoGordo said: I don't understand this method. Are you saying that you create some kind of mold, then shape the two halves of the holster, then dye, and finally sew? How do the halves fit together? Can you point me to a video of this method so I can actually see it? The method I use is: Dye, cut, sew, wet mold, finish. Just to clarify: I understand this type of procedure with a pocket knife or something with little detail, but with a handgun that has lots of curves and indentations, I don't understand how wet molding before stitching can capture and maintain that detail. Quote
AlZilla Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, GatoGordo said: don't understand how wet molding before stitching can capture That's not what he's saying. In the 10th post down, OP says "Dye, Cut, Stitch, Mold, Finish. " He'd like to dye after stitching and molding but doesn't want to muck up his contrasting thread color. Edited July 6, 2023 by AlZilla clarity Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
Members GatoGordo Posted July 6, 2023 Members Report Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, AlZilla said: That's not what he's saying. In the 10th post down, OP says "Dye, Cut, Stitch, Mold, Finish. " He'd like to dye after stitching and molding but doesn't want to muck up his contrasting thread color. I was questioning the fourth post where toxo states: Why not just wet mould - dye - stitch - two coats of 50/50 Resolene? I don't understand how to get and retain any detail if the stitching occurs after wet molding. Quote
Members caressofsteel Posted July 6, 2023 Members Report Posted July 6, 2023 Have you tried nylon thread? I have not personally tried to dye it, but nylon thread is supposed to be terribly difficult to dye. I have seen other people's projects where the leather is stitched with white nylon thread and then dipped dyed black. The thread stays white. Seems you could test this on some scraps to see if it would be a possible solution. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted July 6, 2023 CFM Report Posted July 6, 2023 have you tried gluing it then molding then sewing. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members JustPete Posted July 6, 2023 Members Report Posted July 6, 2023 Have you tried black pre-dyed holster leather? It seems to mold well enough for my needs, but I do mostly knife sheath work and its not always AS reliant on a tight friction fit. Quote
AlZilla Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, GatoGordo said: I was questioning the fourth post where toxo states: Why not just wet mould - dye - stitch - two coats of 50/50 Resolene? I don't understand how to get and retain any detail if the stitching occurs after wet molding. Gotcha. I can't understand that either, then. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
toxo Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, GatoGordo said: I was questioning the fourth post where toxo states: Why not just wet mould - dye - stitch - two coats of 50/50 Resolene? I don't understand how to get and retain any detail if the stitching occurs after wet molding. Let me first state that I don't make holsters. That being said I have wet moulded many other things. There are many examples on Y/T of getting detail into wet moulding using all sorts of tools including bone folders and fingers as the leather dries. When I pondered this problem I assumed the back of the holster would be flat, (why wouldn't it be if it lies against the body?). But now I understand that not everyone makes holsters this way. If I were to make a holster this way I would wrap the gun in plastic film, lay it down and prop it up level, then using some kind of moulding clay I would press it all around the gun to make a mould. Then using something like resin I would pour it into the mould to make a form that I could use again and again using the normal wet moulding techniques. Quote
toxo Posted July 6, 2023 Report Posted July 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, AlZilla said: Gotcha. I can't understand that either, then. There's no detail here but it shows the principle. If there were detail such as a gun it would be easy to get out. Quote
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