Cowboy CB4500 premium w/eps vs Techsew 5100 se w/eps

[DieselTech]

I'm also hoping to sew tow straps & truckers tarps & straps. 

[dikman]

Wiz mentioned RockyAussie and Patrick1 in his post above for the modified foot plates. There have been a few posts about them in this section of the forum. A 4500 should handle straps etc fine.

[MtlBiker]

5 minutes ago, DieselTech said:

Thanks I appreciate it. So where does a person purchase these modified presser feet & throat plates. 

I think the cb4500 w/eps premium package, might come with some different feet & throat plates. As well as a flat table attachment, but I'm not 100% sure. 

There are links to those products in the reply above from Wizcrafts.  And do make sure you get an aluminum flatbed attachment as those can generally be installed and removed in about a minute... the original flatbed attachment I got with my Techsew 2750 Pro was a PITA to install/remove so it ended up getting tossed.  I bought an aluminum after-market one and it's great!

[DieselTech]

15 minutes ago, dikman said:

Wiz mentioned RockyAussie and Patrick1 in his post above for the modified foot plates. There have been a few posts about them in this section of the forum. A 4500 should handle straps etc fine.

Ok thanks. I went to them links & must have overlooked the website/links for purchase of the extra accessories needed.

Yeah I have been reading on this site, to get the aluminum flatbed attachment just because its simpler to remove & install. 

I appreciate the info/knowledge. Thanks. 

[DieselTech]

19 minutes ago, MtlBiker said:

There are links to those products in the reply above from Wizcrafts.  And do make sure you get an aluminum flatbed attachment as those can generally be installed and removed in about a minute... the original flatbed attachment I got with my Techsew 2750 Pro was a PITA to install/remove so it ended up getting tossed.  I bought an aluminum after-market one and it's great!

Yeah from my reading the aluminum flatbed table is the way to go. I been trying to find & read all I can on the machines I'm interested in. 

Thanks appreciate your help. 

[DieselTech]

Do they not offer eps on the cowboy cb4500? 

I was thinking the cowboy cb4500 premium package was $3395 for it. Then I thought the eps upgrade was a additional $500. Maybe I'm getting confused by all the bigger sewing machines I been looking & reading about. Lol. 

Thanks for everyones input & knowledge.

[Wizcrafts]

4 hours ago, DieselTech said:

Maybe I'm getting confused by all the bigger sewing machines I been looking & reading about. Lol. 

Yup

[Wizcrafts]

@DieselTech

You are getting way ahead of your requirements when you say you want the EPS system on a Cowboy cb4500. or equivalent. That is a needle position sensor that either stops with the needle up otr down all the way. This system was developed for the garment needle trade where they frequently sew at 90 stitches per SECOND, or faster! My Cowboy cb4500 is equipped with an analog servo motor which has a speed limiter dial and knob. It has a 2 inch pulley that feeds a 3:1 speed reducer, which drives the huge balance wheel. The overall reduction is between 9:1 and 10:1 from the motor to the machine. When I set the motor to the slowest setting where it still turns over and powers this reduction stack, the maximum machine sewing speed is about 1/2 to 3/4  stitch per second. I can easily feather the motor down to 1 stitch in 10 seconds. You don't need no stinking EPS on a cb4500!

@DieselTech

You can order your cb4500 and accessories that make sense, HERE

[DieselTech]

51 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

@DieselTech

You are getting way ahead of your requirements when you say you want the EPS system on a Cowboy cb4500. or equivalent. That is a needle position sensor that either stops with the needle up otr down all the way. This system was developed for the garment needle trade where they frequently sew at 90 stitches per SECOND, or faster! My Cowboy cb4500 is equipped with an analog servo motor which has a speed limiter dial and knob. It has a 2 inch pulley that feeds a 3:1 speed reducer, which drives the huge balance wheel. The overall reduction is between 9:1 and 10:1 from the motor to the machine. When I set the motor to the slowest setting where it still turns over and powers this reduction stack, the maximum machine sewing speed is about 1/2 to 3/4  stitch per second. I can easily feather the motor down to 1 stitch in 10 seconds. You don't need no stinking EPS on a cb4500!

@DieselTech

You can order your cb4500 and accessories that make sense, HERE

Thanks Wizcrafts. I been lurking on & off for years on this site, but just recently joined. I appreciate your knowledge & help. 

Yeah I was looking at the Cobra Class 4 premium package & got the details all twisted around between the machines. 

I watched a bunch of videos & read about the Cobra class 4, Cowboy CB4500, & the Techsew 5100se & just wasnt sure what my best route was to go. I got $4500 for the budget for a machine. 

Plus what ever machine I buy for now, i would like to be able to sew soft lighter materials, short of maybe changing a few parts & adjustments to switch from light to heavy projects. 

Thanks again. 

[kgg]

7 hours ago, DieselTech said:

I guess I should have mentioned I mainly use 277 or 346 thread on my heavy projects,

 

If your thread range is V138 to V346 then you are into a class 441 machine to handle the V346 thread.

6 hours ago, DieselTech said:

I'm also hoping to sew tow straps & truckers tarps & straps. 

If you are planning on selling / repairing traps or straps in general for other people be very careful, get trained, certified and insured. It isn't just about that you can do the work or what machine can do the job it's the liability should things go south.

kgg