Members Stratton Posted March 20, 2024 Author Members Report Posted March 20, 2024 thank you Bruce KGG and Chris - Very helpful and really appreciate it! Quote
Members ToddW Posted March 20, 2024 Members Report Posted March 20, 2024 I have the biggest Vevor and it does work.. I do have to make sure all is level when doing a big die as it tends to be lower in the back than the front... I wish had the mighty wonder or the BG one.. Quote
Members Double Daddy Posted March 21, 2024 Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 13 hours ago, ToddW said: I have the biggest Vevor and it does work.. I do have to make sure all is level when doing a big die as it tends to be lower in the back than the front... I wish had the mighty wonder or the BG one.. I considered one of the Vevor clicker presses - I had been using a modified 1-ton arbor press for clicking (mounted to the bench betwixt a widened plywood base using metal plates to "spread" the pressure load on the cutting pad over said base)...but it wasn't getting it done anymore. My hesitation over the Vevor was pretty much as you stated: uneven pressure/results front to back when clicking out items. I just endured the 1-ton for a bit longer, saved up my cereal box tops and bought a 4-ton press...no regrets. Quote Have a great day! Chris
kgg Posted March 21, 2024 Report Posted March 21, 2024 3 hours ago, Double Daddy said: My hesitation over the Vevor was pretty much as you stated: uneven pressure/results front to back when clicking out items. @Stratton @Double Daddy A swing away clicker press versus a the hydraulic shop press conversion: Swing Away Clicker Press 1) Can provide a single downward stroke to allow the die to cut 2) Head swings out of the way to allow access to the clicker die and HDPE bed 3) Weight wise they range from 100 to 450 lbs 4) Can typically cost upwards to $3300 USD 5) Single Function of cutting or embossing Hydraulic Shop Press Conversion 1) Weight wise they range from 100 -170 lbs 2) Typical cost for a basic conversion including the cost of the shop press would be about $500 USD for 12 ton capacity 3) Multi functional Note the top presser plate on a Hydraulic Shop Press can be also have the swing away feature similar to the Swing Away Clicker Presses with the proper adapter. For those who want a very basic clicker press on a budget I would suggest: Considering a hydraulic shop / press setup. Using US sites the cost could be very reasonable and provide more tonnage then the typical manual clicker presses. i) Hydraulic shop press floor model ---- $170 @ Harbor Freight or a benchtop model @ $234 from Amazon.com ( Torin ATY12001B Steel H-Shape ) ii) HDPE 1" X 12" X 12" ------- $25 @ US plastic iii) 2 -Steel Plate 1/2" X 12" X 12" ----- $242 @ Speedy Metals Total ------------------------------------------------ $437 floor style or $501 benchtop style Just my thoughts, kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members Stratton Posted March 21, 2024 Author Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 49 minutes ago, kgg said: @Stratton @Double Daddy A swing away clicker press versus a the hydraulic shop press conversion: Swing Away Clicker Press 1) Can provide a single downward stroke to allow the die to cut 2) Head swings out of the way to allow access to the clicker die and HDPE bed 3) Weight wise they range from 100 to 450 lbs 4) Can typically cost upwards to $3300 USD 5) Single Function of cutting or embossing Hydraulic Shop Press Conversion 1) Weight wise they range from 100 -170 lbs 2) Typical cost for a basic conversion including the cost of the shop press would be about $500 USD for 12 ton capacity 3) Multi functional Note the top presser plate on a Hydraulic Shop Press can be also have the swing away feature similar to the Swing Away Clicker Presses with the proper adapter. For those who want a very basic clicker press on a budget I would suggest: Considering a hydraulic shop / press setup. Using US sites the cost could be very reasonable and provide more tonnage then the typical manual clicker presses. i) Hydraulic shop press floor model ---- $170 @ Harbor Freight or a benchtop model @ $234 from Amazon.com ( Torin ATY12001B Steel H-Shape ) ii) HDPE 1" X 12" X 12" ------- $25 @ US plastic iii) 2 -Steel Plate 1/2" X 12" X 12" ----- $242 @ Speedy Metals Total ------------------------------------------------ $437 floor style or $501 benchtop style Just my thoughts, kgg Great info, thanks! I will definitely look into Hydraulic press conversion option. Definitely a surprise to me that the price difference can be so big: $3,300 vs $500 Quote
Members Stratton Posted March 21, 2024 Author Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 (edited) 19 hours ago, ToddW said: I have the biggest Vevor and it does work.. I do have to make sure all is level when doing a big die as it tends to be lower in the back than the front... I wish had the mighty wonder or the BG one.. Thanks Todd! I just looked at the Vevor and have two beginner's questions: 1) How can the Weaver mighty wonder be SO MUCH MORE than the Vevor? Is it because of the swivel head or because quality? (or both?) 2) When you say "wish I had the mighty wonder or the BG one", am I correct in assuming that you feel the higher price is worth it? Thanks, Stratton Edited March 21, 2024 by Stratton typo Quote
Members ToddW Posted March 21, 2024 Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 1) How can the Weaver mighty wonder be SO MUCH MORE than the Vevor? Is it because of the swivel head or because quality? (or both?) well the Vevor press is from Vevor which is a pretty high volume shop. I was shocked that they could ship the thing for what they did as it is HEAVY (hard to lift by yourself) and comes in a wood crate. because it is a 2 post clicker, it does limit you to what you can slide under the press. I like the swivel head design a bit better for that reason. cuttong keychains and wallet is a breeze but my laptop sleeves is a bit more challenging. the 2 posts do pull forward if you REALLY pull down on it.. 2) When you say "wish I had the mighty wonder or the BG one", am I correct in assuming that you feel the higher price is worth it? I do like the mighty wonder and BG design better and do think its more substantial allowing it to handle bigger items. I haven't broke down to buy one but am watching the used market for one.. Don't get me wrong the Vevor is working for me.. I am struggling with dishing out that kind of cash after buying a CO2 Laser (OMTECH), 3d Printer (Qidi), sewing machine (Cobra class 26), bell skiver (bought used) and a Splitter (Cobra).. Also have a heat press for my logo, cap press for leather patches...etc..etc..etc.. thats after buying all the nice expensive hand tools (Sinabrooks, Polosanto).. I outgrew the spare bedroom and build a 30x12 shop out back and still out of room.. I WISH I had the money and power in my shop for a small ATOM press but not in the cards.. I will end up getting the Mighty Wonder when some of my inventory starts clearing out.. Hope that helps! Quote
Northmount Posted March 21, 2024 Report Posted March 21, 2024 @Stratton moved this thread to Leather Machinery Quote
Members Stratton Posted March 21, 2024 Author Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 Really helps Todd, thanks! Quote
Members ToddW Posted March 21, 2024 Members Report Posted March 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Stratton said: Really helps Todd, thanks! no prob at all! I love contributing anywhere I can.. Quote
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