Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted Friday at 09:18 PM Is anyone familiar of a mid size machine that can take a 135x16/17 needle with a jump foot and needle feed? I'm thinking I'd like to have one for some really small fine work (don't want a wheel presser). Just a jump foot (a real jump foot) and needle feed only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted Friday at 09:21 PM I had one in the mid 1980s. It was a Singer 31-something. It had a spring loaded jump foot. I used it to sew leather bests and lined belts with #69 or 92 binded thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted Saturday at 12:33 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: I had one in the mid 1980s. It was a Singer 31-something. It had a spring loaded jump foot. I used it to sew leather bests and lined belts with #69 or 92 binded thread. Yes,31-19,31-47,331K5 & 331K105,Singer 16-41-88 & 188 & short arm 44-9 Edited Saturday at 12:34 PM by CowboyBob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted Saturday at 05:18 PM 4 hours ago, CowboyBob said: Yes,31-19,31-47,331K5 & 331K105,Singer 16-41-88 & 188 & short arm 44-9 Thanks, Bob. I remember now. It was a 31-19. It was many many moons ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted Saturday at 11:33 PM (edited) Thanks for the replies men Looks like the 44-9 is pretty close. I'm dreaming of something like a downscaled Ferdinand 900B that takes a 135x16 needle. Could be cyl or post bed. Edited Saturday at 11:36 PM by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michiel Report post Posted yesterday at 09:03 AM (edited) In your OP You asked for needle-feed. i doubt if these machines have needle feed. i might be wrong but I don’nt think i have ever seen the combination jump foot (with a spring) and needle feed…. Edited yesterday at 09:04 AM by Michiel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted yesterday at 11:51 AM wondering why you are focused on a jump foot. Why not triple feed like the Singer 111W156 / 111G156, Juki 563 or similar as Pfaff 145 / 545 Adler 67, 167, 267 and so forth... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted 18 hours ago @Cumberland Highpower I just remembered about another machine that had a jump foot AND needle feed. It was called the Number 9. It disappeared in the mid 20th Century, then was reborn as the Luberto Classic. This then disappeared about 10 years ago. These were heavy duty harness stitchers, not well suited to delicate work. Both used a really long needle system that could deflect in the thinner sizes (for thinner thread). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Constabulary said: wondering why you are focused on a jump foot. Why not triple feed like the Singer 111W156 / 111G156, Juki 563 or similar as Pfaff 145 / 545 Adler 67, 167, 267 and so forth... Well, I have Seikos, Consews, Adlers, Brothers and a Nakajima that all take the 135x needle system. Half of those are triple feed. A jump foot can have the same external "footprint" of a triple feed inner and outer foot set, yet have over twice the actual surface area of either individual foot to spread pressure out on the work. If I had needle feed and a jump foot, I could just use a needle plate with a slot and eliminate the feed dog. It's just something I'd like to have. Not a necessity. Why not? Looks like the 44-9 isn't a needle feed after all. just looked it up. Edited 13 hours ago by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: @Cumberland Highpower I just remembered about another machine that had a jump foot AND needle feed. It was called the Number 9. It disappeared in the mid 20th Century, then was reborn as the Luberto Classic. This then disappeared about 10 years ago. These were heavy duty harness stitchers, not well suited to delicate work. Both used a really long needle system that could deflect in the thinner sizes (for thinner thread). I had 2 of those in the Classic version. They were ok/decent machines, but slow. I broke more needles on them than anything else. 13 hours ago, Michiel said: In your OP You asked for needle-feed. i doubt if these machines have needle feed. i might be wrong but I don’nt think i have ever seen the combination jump foot (with a spring) and needle feed…. What do you mean jump foot with a spring? Edited 13 hours ago by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted 5 hours ago okay got you - so I think a Singer 78 / CONSEW 28 could be a choice. They have no feed dog and a slotted needle plate + needle feed but it is not jump foot machine. Feet work as on triple feed machines. So just a suggestion. But parts & feet are rather hard to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michiel Report post Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said: What do you mean jump foot with a spring? Some older machines had their outer presserfoot moving back by the force of a spring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
