Replacing girth please don't

[jcuk]

Just because you maybe very good in a certain area of leather craft does not mean you can take on certain things, here is a prime example she maybe a excellent cobbler I don't know but she should have said no to this. People at there very least can get hurt and walk away but could also be changed for life If they survive, just because you may get away with it does not make it right so again please don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ksl9Xdw59E

 

Hope this helps

JCUK

[kgg]

I think your are right the lady should have sent the client to a someone that does that kind of work. The leather patches seem to be a stop gap measure. The straps to me hold the saddle and rider to the horse be it I know nothing about saddles the repair seems iffy at best. I think the straps should have been completely replaced as the new leather straps were scabbed onto the old leather that looked like they were gone way beyond their best before date.

kgg

 

[Mulesaw]

This is horrifying to watch. I was cringing the whole time. 

The patch work is dubious, but it might work as a temporary measure, but most saddles are so heavily treated with soap/oil/grease/conditioner etc, that I can never get any glue to stick properly.

The girth job... Plenty of stitches across the strap, and I guess it is just out of pure ignorance that she doesn't lift the flap all the way up and reattach some new ones at the webbing.
I first made my own girth straps, but I was never really satisfied with them. I buy mine ready made now. They come from England according to my supplier, They have the right feel to them :-)

Brgds
Jonas

[chuck123wapati]

And artificial intelligence is learning from these people, don't our grandkids have a great future to look forward to?

She actually replied to one person that she had been doing this for years. I love watching you tube it s a big part of my tv time. but darn you can get led into some bad info real easy if you dont have a good understanding of the subject. I've seen it here, people sign on the forum, lurk a while,ask a few questions, read a few threads and all of sudden they are putting out videos like they have been making bespoke watchamacallits for years lol.

 Saddles, some parts are repairable, some just arent and some saddles arent worth it to repair at all. Safety gear I won't touch at all. If it's worn out but so much of a cherished thing you can't get rid of it, then hang it in your den and polish it every day or something, but buy a new one to take its place.

Bottom line the way i see it is fixing old stuff can get people hurt, so you have to think for them sometimes and say things they don't want to hear, because they won't accept the reality for whatever reason. A few bucks in your pocket for a quick repair isn't worth the risk to your customer or your livelihood, so there are some things you shouldn't even attempt, and your knowledge in the craft should lead you in that direction if need be.

 

 

[TomE]

But the shoe polish fixed everything.  Her responses to the comments tell the story. 

[BlackDragon]

I recently got a saddle into the shop for cleaning, inspection, and repairs along with a breastplate. I let the owner know about any the issues they don't know about.

When it came to the breastplate I explained the bottom strap was severly cracked and should be replaced. They asked if I could just patch it and move on. I explaind that if one part of a strip is bad the rest is on it's way out. The cost to replace the whole piece and patching it would wind up being the same but with the patch there's a chance the old leather will fail. They agreed with the repair.

[Darren8306]

3 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

 I love watching you tube it s a big part of my tv time. but darn you can get led into some bad info real easy if you dont have a good understanding of the subject.

Yeah, I had a pal ask me to make a bullet sleeve for the stock of his bear gun. I told him no thanks. Prefer to make wallets for now. If someone loses their money it isn't as devastating as a bear-gun being 'wrong' somehow.

[jcuk]

21 hours ago, kgg said:

I think your are right the lady should have sent the client to a someone that does that kind of work. The leather patches seem to be a stop gap measure. The straps to me hold the saddle and rider to the horse be it I know nothing about saddles the repair seems iffy at best. I think the straps should have been completely replaced as the new leather straps were scabbed onto the old leather that looked like they were gone way beyond their best before date.

kgg

 

 

6 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

And artificial intelligence is learning from these people, don't our grandkids have a great future to look forward to?

She actually replied to one person that she had been doing this for years. I love watching you tube it s a big part of my tv time. but darn you can get led into some bad info real easy if you dont have a good understanding of the subject. I've seen it here, people sign on the forum, lurk a while,ask a few questions, read a few threads and all of sudden they are putting out videos like they have been making bespoke watchamacallits for years lol.

 Saddles, some parts are repairable, some just arent and some saddles arent worth it to repair at all. Safety gear I won't touch at all. If it's worn out but so much of a cherished thing you can't get rid of it, then hang it in your den and polish it every day or something, but buy a new one to take its place.

Bottom line the way i see it is fixing old stuff can get people hurt, so you have to think for them sometimes and say things they don't want to hear, because they won't accept the reality for whatever reason. A few bucks in your pocket for a quick repair isn't worth the risk to your customer or your livelihood, so there are some things you shouldn't even attempt, and your knowledge in the craft should lead you in that direction if need be.

 

 

Yes a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. I have turned down plenty of work which was well past its sell buy date, once had a lady who wanted her rubber reins recovered when I started working something did not seem right under one of the rubber reins it had been spliced together I said to the lady sorry I am not going to do the repair she said that's okay I take them somewhere else to get them done. I said to my other half wow that's her daughters reins that's just mad.

 

6 hours ago, TomE said:

But the shoe polish fixed everything.  Her responses to the comments tell the story. 

Got me thinking about the owner of the saddle with their nice white Jodhpur's or Breeches on

4 hours ago, BlackDragon said:

I recently got a saddle into the shop for cleaning, inspection, and repairs along with a breastplate. I let the owner know about any the issues they don't know about.

When it came to the breastplate I explained the bottom strap was severly cracked and should be replaced. They asked if I could just patch it and move on. I explaind that if one part of a strip is bad the rest is on it's way out. The cost to replace the whole piece and patching it would wind up being the same but with the patch there's a chance the old leather will fail. They agreed with the repair.

I have policy if I would not ride on it I would not repair it or send it out

 

11 hours ago, Mulesaw said:

This is horrifying to watch. I was cringing the whole time. 

The patch work is dubious, but it might work as a temporary measure, but most saddles are so heavily treated with soap/oil/grease/conditioner etc, that I can never get any glue to stick properly.

The girth job... Plenty of stitches across the strap, and I guess it is just out of pure ignorance that she doesn't lift the flap all the way up and reattach some new ones at the webbing.
I first made my own girth straps, but I was never really satisfied with them. I buy mine ready made now. They come from England according to my supplier, They have the right feel to them 🙂

Brgds
Jonas

Yes it is cringe worthy, I also buy mine in from Abbey they use to carry some really good raw hide ones sadly no longer have them they were super strong no stretch either.

 

Regards JCUK