Contributing Member JLSleather Posted August 21, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted August 21, 2016 Few years ago, I couldnt' get many to set right either... the 20's OR the 16's. So I complained at the tandy where I got them and the setter... STANDARD response... it's "operator error". But I'm quite tired of people selling me CRAP and then trying to tell me it doesn't work cuz I'm doing it wrong. Simple fix, while I was standing there, I walked over to shelf, picked up a pack of snaps and a brand new setter, threw 'em on teh bench they have right there (I think for 'classes') and said ."show me". 'Course, two tandy people couldn't get them to work, either. Turns out, tandy had changed the snap, but not the setter. Genius. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Studio-N Posted August 21, 2016 Members Report Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) when I was showing people I always started with "the main problem is that men get their balls in the way". what did I mean? Most people having a problem would approach it as if they were driving a nail. SLAM! tube splits and bends. (and yes, the wives always nodded to my comment). I would take it, and go tap tap tap - ensuring the tool was perpendicular to the snap (another usual problem), and it would be perfectly rounded over. same crappy snaps. same crappy setter. So yes, I would be inclined to say operator error. Stay Calm - and tap tap tap. PS. Same comment for Tubular rivets. It's not a nail. Edited August 21, 2016 by Studio-N Quote "Out of my mind.....back in 5 minutes"
Members glockanator Posted August 21, 2016 Members Report Posted August 21, 2016 when I was showing people I always started with "the main problem is that men get their balls in the way". what did I mean? Most people having a problem would approach it as if they were driving a nail. SLAM! tube splits and bends. (and yes, the wives always nodded to my comment). I would take it, and go tap tap tap - ensuring the tool was perpendicular to the snap (another usual problem), and it would be perfectly rounded over. same crappy snaps. same crappy setter. So yes, I would be inclined to say operator error. Stay Calm - and tap tap tap. PS. Same comment for Tubular rivets. It's not a nail. I was going to say the same thing. I have found that if you give taps and a ir ular motion they seat fine. It's a lot like peeing over a rivet. If you just hit it with a big hammer it will cause problems. Quote
Members Sonydaze Posted August 22, 2016 Members Report Posted August 22, 2016 Tandy snaps are poor quality which is a good part of the problem. Both Weaver Leather and Ohio Travelbag have decent snaps (as well as many other suppliers). I think Ohio Travelbag offers more than one length of posts on their snaps. Using a press with dies will consistently give you better results, especially if the leather is a bit thick for the post height. If you are setting snaps frequently, a press is a good investment to consider. If you are using hand tools, I agree with the previous posts about hitting with several taps are the way to get better results. Quote http://www.bound2please.com Sewing machines: 3 - Sunstar 590BL, Artisan Toro 3200, Juki LK-1900HS, Juki DDL-8500-7, Juki DDL-5550N, Pfaff 138-6/21, Pfaff 546-H3, Pfaff 335-H3, Adler 221-76, Singer 144WVS33, Singer 29K-51, Siruba 747B
Members Handstitched Posted August 28, 2016 Members Report Posted August 28, 2016 G'Day, now its my turn. I too have had problems. Mainly with the post being too short. I have found, from my own experience , its depending on which supplier I get mine from . ( I'm in Western Australia) Some are the 'Tandy ' sort, and some are from Birdsall Leather NSW, and some are even some 'non-descript' brand off ebay. I prefer the long durables, 8mm ( line 24's ) from Birdsall Leather. They are also cheaper, but sometimes not always in stock. Before setting, I have a tool that is used for another type of snap. It has a hole in the centre that accomodates the length & diameter of the posts . I place that over the top of the post first on both the eyelet & cap, and give it a few firm taps. That pushes the leather around it downwards exposing a bit more of the post . I guess the same could be achieved using a small socket from a socket set. It makes it so much easier when it comes to setting the stud . Depending on the brand , the hole is either set high or low( if that makes any sense ? ) . This is where the Birdsall brand are good, the hole in the stud is low. My old setters are so 'rounded' & worn now, but they set just perfectly . All the best HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members CaptQuirk Posted August 28, 2016 Members Report Posted August 28, 2016 I think my biggest problem, is trying to set line 20's in leather that is too thick. I sand and I skieve, but not enough. Pull the snap and try again... and again... and it finally takes. Going to start using line 24s now. Quote
Members TonyRV2 Posted August 28, 2016 Members Report Posted August 28, 2016 If you don't have a press, but own a drill press, this can also be used to set snaps. Just chuck up the tool, put the anvil on the table and have at it. Quote Tony VRifle River Leather Ogemaw Knifeworks There are two individuals inside every artisan...the poet and the craftsman. One is born a poet. One becomes a craftsman.
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