Adler Sewing Machine Model Number ?

[jack523]

Found a picture of a machine like the one i was looking at, it was an Adler 20-201 http://www.hobkirk.co.uk/images/pictures/industrial-second-hand/adler-20-201.jpg

Sorry boys that deal did not go thru I was not willing to take the risk on that old machine. I know you "Sherlock Holmes" types out there would have liked to see those pics, it just was not worth the gas money to go back out on the other side of town and take the pics. Believe me i would have liked to know what it was myself. That old man had about six other machines just collecting dust.

Sometimes it feels like that little lost puppy, can't rescue them all. Thanks for your input.

[CowboyBob]

You made a good choice to stay away from that machine,it's a double needle,look how big the feet are,you would never be able to sew close to a buckle & with the bottom feed like it has would leave teeh marks.

I have seen alot of people buy machines like these just because they were big & heavy they thought they would be good for leather & then find out the limitations afterwards.

THEN they want to trade them in for something that will do the job.

Bob

[hotrod]

If you find an Adler 220 at a good pries BUY IT, it is a far superior machine to any Chines 441 clone or for that matter its better than a JUKI 441 if tooth marks in your work is a problem and if you don't want to file the teeth down just fill them in with JB weld, COBRA AND COWBOY 441 CLONES DO NOT LAST VERRY LONG YOU CAN ALREADY FIND THEM IN JUNK PILES the 220 Adler will last a life time I ran a new Cobra 441 clone in to the dirt in 90 days beyond repair, I was using Kevlar thread on polyester web 7hr a day five days a week for just short of 12 weeks, so there you go that is precisely the durability of a 441 clone. the phone number to my sewing factory is 509 315-5988 address 3038 E. Trent Spokane WA.99201 CO. name A.Adler web sling & tie down factory www.aadlerfactory.com

[CowboyBob]

COBRA AND COWBOY 441 CLONES DO NOT LAST VERRY LONG YOU CAN ALREADY FIND THEM IN JUNK PILES

[Wizcrafts]

I wonder how a Hiroshe hook and a Juki take-up lever would hold up with Kevlar thread.

[pstaylor]

You made a good choice to stay away from that machine,it's a double needle,look how big the feet are,you would never be able to sew close to a buckle & with the bottom feed like it has would leave teeh marks.

I have seen alot of people buy machines like these just because they were big & heavy they thought they would be good for leather & then find out the limitations afterwards.

THEN they want to trade them in for something that will do the job.

Bob

I see you know my life's story, yet we've never met. :')

[billymac814]

COBRA AND COWBOY 441 CLONES DO NOT LAST VERRY LONG YOU CAN ALREADY FIND THEM IN JUNK PILES

Where are these junk piles at? I'd pull one out

[bkyjones]

I have an old (1930's perhaps) Adler 20 20 and have been searching high and low for parts, operating manual and general information. It really isn't missing much but finding them is proving difficult. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. (photo attached)

[shoepatcher]

Try contacting Michael Simard Ltd. in Canada. He has a ton of new old parts for Adlers and is a master Adler dealer. He told me Durkopp/Adler has come to him for old Adler parts that they can't get anymore. telephone number is 519-622-3766. Ask for Michael personally. shoepatcher

[Art]

Be careful with old Adlers from before the war. The factories were bombed and they rebuild with new models and new designs. They just didn't manufacture any more parts for those "before war" machines. Parts are always a problem.

Chinese clones from reputable factories are actually pretty good, even the Adlers that were made there. I use a Chinese clone to sew fire retarding, proofing, and suppression equipment. Set up from the factory just as the original 441. Kevlar thread takes its toll on sewing parts and the thread path, but those parts are easily replaced, and readily available. This is one of the good things about the 441 and it's clones; there are gazillions of parts, just a short drive or a phone call away. I've had the big 441 for over 4 years, and it sews a lot at 800 spm for days and days in a row. I do oil it often, and occasionally replace a thread guide now and again, but needles are really the part that wears out.

All of the dealers that I know also warrant their products fully, if there is a junk pile with Cobras in it, let me at it.

Art