CowboyBob Posted May 2, 2021 Report Posted May 2, 2021 8 hours ago, 4squareleather said: just got a Consew 206rb3 and it didn't come with any needles or thread. i'm going to be using the machine to sew belts, wallets and tool pouches. when hand stitching I usually do .8 ritza tiger thread. What would be the best needle thread combo. thanks in advance for any help. You can use a #138 w/a #22 needle. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members Oldiesfan Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) Help needed with this thread type . I can buy these voor 10 € a piece. It's a type of thread coming from the Dutch Army . Probably a ( Specal ) Cotton thread . Is it worth the money and what can you Sew with this thread? Edited May 15, 2021 by Oldiesfan Quote
Members Oldiesfan Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 For as far i know it's a Cotton Z- Twist size 8 thread. I Quote
Members jimi Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) This looks similar to the thread used for sewing soles on shoes but not sure?? I have some rolls for sewing sandals but it is linen thread not cotton. Edited May 15, 2021 by jimi Quote
Members Oldiesfan Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, jimi said: This looks similar to the thread used for sewing soles on shoes but not sure?? I have some rolls for sewing sandals but it is linen thread not cotton. I ordered 3 rolls instead of all 12 . Let's say it's Cotton thread in this type i asked questions about . For what kind of sewing work can you use that thread ? See label and Nsn 10 € a roll = cheap or expensive? Edited May 15, 2021 by Oldiesfan Quote
Members Oldiesfan Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) This is what i found on the internet . It also seems to be that a type IV and V are shoe threads . Type 1, 2 and III Machine threads. Look at the picture for info about a A.A. 52094A version . Does that mean that a type V can't be used in my Singer 132K versions or 45k89 ? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.amefird.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/8-30-11-A-A-52094A-Spun-Cotton-Shoes.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiehdSztMzwAhVj8-AKHQ2RAlkQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw2Qz6Ypu8NOvHjUbAppoOqy Edited May 15, 2021 by Oldiesfan Quote
Members jimi Posted May 15, 2021 Members Report Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) If you don´t use it you can always string together the ham or the turkey for christmas €10 is a good price for that size of roll i think, those small Hoogen rolls are 20 each! ouch..then add postage...ouch again. It looks straight enough to use in the machine??? i have used the linen 18/4 in my 45k and it worked well, with only one turn around the tension disk. I am sure you can stitch a bag together with that thread?? or a belt...if you groove it for laying the thread down because it might fray easier. It would probably absorb any oil or wax you apply to it?? Or try making sandals?? your 89 can do that?? That would probably bee the same thickness as 207-277 bonded nylon? Edited May 15, 2021 by jimi Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted May 15, 2021 Moderator Report Posted May 15, 2021 Regarding the "shoe thread," ask the seller to check the label to see which way it is twisted. Most single needle sewing machines with hooks spinning clockwise require left, or reverse, or Z twist thread. But, some shoe sole stitchers require right twist thread. If you use right twist in a standard sewing machine it may unravel as you sew. Note, some twin needle machines may require right twist for the outside needle if that hook spins counterclockwise.. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Oldiesfan Posted May 16, 2021 Members Report Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: Regarding the "shoe thread," ask the seller to check the label to see which way it is twisted. Most single needle sewing machines with hooks spinning clockwise require left, or reverse, or Z twist thread. But, some shoe sole stitchers require right twist thread. If you use right twist in a standard sewing machine it may unravel as you sew. Note, some twin needle machines may require right twist for the outside needle if that hook spins counterclockwise.. Look at what's mentioned in the printscreen . Z Twist . One page back you see a picture of the label . Edited May 16, 2021 by Oldiesfan Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted May 16, 2021 Moderator Report Posted May 16, 2021 19 hours ago, Oldiesfan said: Does that mean that a type V can't be used in my Singer 132K versions or 45k89 ? Those threads are glazed, or mercerized, but not bonded. You will have a hard time using cotton or linen thread is a normal sewing machine. The shoe threads are usually waxed before you sew. In the case of a sole stitcher, the wax is in a pot that feeds to a barbed needle. This strengthens the fibers. If you run this thread through a standard sewing machine, without wax, it will probably break during the take-up cycle. At least that was my experience with Barbour's Irish Linen glazed thread when I last tried it. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
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