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11 hours ago, JLSleather said:

Two more months gone by.  A JILLION more "holster videos".. and NOT ONE of them shows me how to scan a blue gun :whistle:

 

I would just trace the blue gun with a pencil onto a piece of paper the old fashioned way, then scan the drawing. I've done this with knives and axes so I don't see why it wouldn't work with a blue gun. Then used Corel Draw to clean up the lines and all of the other cool tricks you can do with a digital copy of the pattern. I'm not very Corel savvy at all which makes it painful, but I'm trying to learn it.

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On 8/14/2011 at 1:38 AM, hidepounder said:

I would really like to be able draw on the computer, however I'm not sure how practical it would really be. If I were only making items whose patterns fit on an 8-1/2" x 11" piece of paper then maybe it would be handy, however I find that an awful lot of what I do requires larger paper than what I can print on at home so I draw my patterns by hand. And when I do have a large pattern that I've drawn, It isn't very practical to try to scan it. I know it can be done, but not with the everyday home equipment that most of us live with and I can't see an advantage to running back and forth to Kinkos and paying them to print out or scan the larger patterns. So I've kind of given up on using the computer to draw with..........

Bobby

Don't know how they do it but the people that sell patterns like niteKore on Etsy for example send them on PDF and the bigger patterns come on two pages (or more) with line up/cut out marks and they're very accurate.

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17 hours ago, JLSleather said:

Two more months gone by.  A JILLION more "holster videos".. and NOT ONE of them shows me how to scan a blue gun :whistle:

 

Don't fully understand your question but if for instance you want to copy a object as accurately as possible to say make a 3d copy in plastic and can use Fusion 360 a free program and have a scanner so you can make images of the original this youtube video from about 41,50 onwards shows how you can do it, all the info prior to this is not applicable. Once you have finished you can make the file into a STL file and have it printed on a 3D printer or alternatively I guess, a CAM setup

You can also use photo's front side and top with the major dimensions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnnNB6LEu1g&feature=em-uploademail

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On 9/21/2019 at 2:55 AM, toxo said:

niteKore

etsy search doesnt find this at all

On 9/21/2019 at 5:39 AM, chrisash said:

copy a object as accurately as possible to say make a 3d copy in plastic

I'm not getting how we got to that at all.  This is about making leather patterns.  I drive a car - but I have no desire to learn how to make tires.  IF I already have the gun, I don't need a "copy" of it.

SOMEBODY show me how you take a gun (or replica, dummy, etc), put it on a scanner, and end up with a full-scale 2'd drawing of that gun.  Or don't - either way. :dunno:

 

JLS  "Observation is 9/10 of the law."

IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.

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8 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

etsy search doesnt find this at all

I'm not getting how we got to that at all.  This is about making leather patterns.  I drive a car - but I have no desire to learn how to make tires.  IF I already have the gun, I don't need a "copy" of it.

SOMEBODY show me how you take a gun (or replica, dummy, etc), put it on a scanner, and end up with a full-scale 2'd drawing of that gun.  Or don't - either way. :dunno:

 

Sorry JLS, he's nitekore on youtube. On Etsy he's Dieselpunkro. Also on Leatherpatterns.com and he has a thriving facebook group also. His name is Tony See and he's a very helpful chap. Don't know if steampunk or dieselpunk is a thing over there. He's about punching holes and handstitching and although the f/b group kinda frown on machines, a lot of his designs will lend themselves to machining at least in part. My post Motoko3 at last is one of Tonys.

https://www.etsy.com/uk?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=etsy_e&utm_campaign=Search_UK_Brand_Google_HP_General-Brand_Core_General_Exact&utm_ag=A1&utm_custom1=b70041f0-baf3-4798-9b16-e7c309081b66&utm_content=go_1448964936_57199718635_319534134681_aud-440949173404:kwd-1818581752_c_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo8a02K_k5AIVWIXVCh0BDA4NEAAYASAAEgLLn_D_BwE

https://www.leather-patterns.com/

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That's a guy selling patterns.  This topic is about making your own patterns.

(I probably could have left this out, but I couldn't take that guy for long, likely.  The accent and apparent condescension - which admittedly could be a wrong perception - coupled with the designs, just not my thing.  And, the "copyright' misinterpretation is abrasive. I don't think you can prevent someone from making products with your design, the only thing "copyrighted" is reproduction of the PATTERN - though laws over there may be different). 

JLS  "Observation is 9/10 of the law."

IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.

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17 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

That's a guy selling patterns.  This topic is about making your own patterns.

(I probably could have left this out, but I couldn't take that guy for long, likely.  The accent and apparent condescension - which admittedly could be a wrong perception - coupled with the designs, just not my thing.  And, the "copyright' misinterpretation is abrasive. I don't think you can prevent someone from making products with your design, the only thing "copyrighted" is reproduction of the PATTERN - though laws over there may be different). 

My first post was in reference to making patterns bigger than one A4 page. My second post was reply to your query.

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SOMEBODY show me how you take a gun (or replica, dummy, etc), put it on a scanner, and end up with a full-scale 2'd drawing of that gun.  Or don't - either way. :dunno:

Lots of talk, but I guess Andrews has the closest to rational thought.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PdKDmcmu8k&t=2s

Except, it's not digital...

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JLS  "Observation is 9/10 of the law."

IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.

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So sorry I tried to help you, the information i gave you plus the video shows how you can recreate the gun by digitising the image either scanned or photo and if you don't want to recreate the image you can automatically using the same software produce drawings with or without measurements showing the three views at whatever scale you need

You could also do this when a customer brings in a article or gun, take the three images and some basic measurements and produce your own plastic copy and let the customer take his gun home with him

Maybe you are not very good at explaining what you need, maybe explain what you are trying to achieve, and you do come across as rather abrasive to people trying to answer your query

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"And, the "copyright' misinterpretation is abrasive. I don't think you can prevent someone from making products with your design, the only thing "copyrighted" is reproduction of the PATTERN - though laws over there may be different). "
Try that argument on with Hérmes..the copyright law is the same in the EU as in the USA..the only "misinterpretation" of copyright there is yours Jeff..
What you "think" is fortunately not what Judges think ( even in the USA ) about copyright.

re "the video"..why don't you make one that shows what you want to see yourself ? I haven't heard anyone else saying there is a lack of one..

The "how" to do that, scan a gun, or any object and get an outline drawing from the scan is easy..Dozens of videos ( paid for and free ) about how to do that using photoshop or other software have been out there for over a decade, just not for '( AFAIK ) specifically for a gun..

I'm not going to make one, because my rifle won't fit on my scanner..and I don't need a leather holster for a handgun..Neither open, nor concealed carry is legal here without a permit ( they are hard to get, and I don't need one ) or being a member of the military and if I took the time to make such a video, no-one would pay for it, ( I don't work for free, unless it is for close friends, and then rarely, and good wishes and thanks don't buy groceries) but someone would watch it and copy it and claim it was their idea in a heartbeat..

Just search for how to use your flat scanner to scan an object and transform that into an accurate outline drawing..or some similar phrase..

But I do not understand why you keep on that you want to see a video about how to do this with a flat scanner and software, you already do this by hand the old fashioned way..To gain a few minutes ? ..In that case scan to 3D and 3D print a holster in one of the various plastics, you can probably get the plastic that is kydex on a filament roll..a 3D scanner feeding a computer that talks to a 3D printer and you can go fishing while the machines do the work.

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