New Dürkopp Adler 969 And 967 H Type Machines For X Heavy Work

[kentharald]

So I made the 3 hour drive up there yesterday, still weak with flu.

They have two units, one Classic in the production line, and a Eco getting ready for the showroom.

The Clasic will replace their Randall Lockstich machines that is very time consuming to keep running. Each individual Lockstich has its own personality, and every part has to be bent and polished and cared for to fit those temperamentful machines.

Both DA units had something that may require warranty service. The Classic unit had a problem where the bobbin motor would stop engaging. They said this was due to a rubber gasket or seal that was not attaching properly.

The Eco had a malfunctioning single stich rotary wheel. It did not work at all, and they were unsure of the cause.

The staff at Weaver was extreemely helpful, going out of their way to show me everything there. Not feeling good, I had to decline the offer for a tour around their nylon production floor.

The machine is a BEAST. It is huge. An old 205-370 laying next to it on the floor looked like a wimp compared to the 969.

Pricing still not final, but it was mentioned 11K and 9K for the Classic/Eco respectively.

[catskin]

Doesn't do much for my faith in genuine new Adler machines it is almost 2 years since this post started you would think in that time they would be able to make a machine that works.

[kentharald]

I think with anything new, you do not get all the ins and outs straightened out before the product has been abused by the general consumer for a while. Good support will make or brake, and my understanding is that DA gives Weaver excellent support and immediately rectifies issues. The bobbin motor mentioned was in the mail already, and DA had positively responded with making some new pressure feet on the request of Weaver as well.

I did not mention this, but the table is made by Weaver, and was really sturdy and looked like a quality piece.

[Trox]

Hi Kent Harald, I think Weaver would be a good place to buy this machine, good support is priceless on such new(heavy electronic) product.

If this is going to be DA`s new saddler machine for the next 45 years, like the 205 has been; then they going to make sure every thing is proven alright before they release it. These people are Germans and will not release something that do not work properly, you can rest assure about that.

Yes the Weaver machine stands look much better made than average, But I think European stands are better and more modern built. However, US table tops made of plywood are then again much better than the European tablespoon ones.

You will need the support in the beginning, when your back in Norway you probably know the machine well already. And to get a leg in with those Weaver guys can be a valuable thing later, they have allot of nice tools and machine not available back home.

Tor

[Uwe]

Now I'm curious what a European "tablespoon" table looks like. I've always felt a little jealous of the nicely engineered tables with fold-away options that are available to european buyers. Even the DA promo video for the flatbed 967 shows a super nice, thick plywood table the 0:22 mark in the video. I took apart and re-finished my Adler 205 stand that was made by Weaver some twenty years ago. While the welded metal parts are super strong and confidence inducing, the tabletop itself was an unworthy laminated particle board affair that I replaced with a butcher block piece of wood.

Thanks for posting the little trip report and the photo - it does give a good sense of scale!

I do hope that the Weaver people will be up to the task of supporting this piece of modern machinery, although I don't mentally put the Amish together with modern, computer controlled high-tech equipment. I'm surprised they allow electricity.

But having somewhat local (i.e. "on this continent") support is important for this type machine. Overseas phone support can only do so much and it's not like you can just quickly mail this behemoth to a service center to have it looked at.

[Tramps Leatherworking]

I can't imagine why I would ever need one of these monsters, but they sure do look awesome...

[Uwe]

I had my first two sightings of a Durkopp Adler 969-ECO for sale in the wild this week, both run $12,650 - ouch!

One is on Ebay and the other on the Weaver leather website.

[Constabulary]

Seems you have to sew a huge lot of walltes, bags and holsters until it pays off.

And nerver forget to update the OS when Adler wants you to do that. Does it still need oil?

Siri - Thread This Machine

Siri - Wind This Bobbin

Siri - Sew This Bag 10 Times

When ECO costs 12.650 how much will be the DeLuxe variant?

Edited July 3, 2015 by Constabulary

[Techsew Ron]

Siri - Thread This Machine

Siri - Wind This Bobbin

Siri - Sew This Bag 10 Times

the future is here!

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

It's kind of funny a machine that nobody seems to own is creating so much buzz! I think they are going to unveil the full blown version, with all of the parts gold plated!