Shoepatcher On Steriods

[Kohlrausch]

Constabulary,

The line below from the eBay listing doesn't seem to translate clearly with Google Translate. Is it saying the item pictured is being offered for sale or one that looks like it? Thanks a lot.

Verkaufe wie im Bild eine alte dekorative Schuster oder Sattlernähmaschine.

Offering an old decorative cobbler or saddler sewingmachine as shown in the picture.

Greets

Ralf C.

Edited October 5, 2015 by Kohlrausch

[Harfindel]

Very interesting thread.  Have you guys found this one yet?

http://www.naehmaschine-antik.de/de-baer-koch.html

Quite the machine for 1864.

Carl

Edited December 15, 2016 by Harfindel

[HatoriKun]

Not sure what the end of the story is. But what i can tell you guys! Is that it´s an Dürkopp and Schmidt logo pre 1860`ìsh.

Edited July 10, 2017 by HatoriKun

[HatoriKun]

On 9/2/2015 at 8:44 PM, machinehead said:

Google Hugo Hengstenberg of Bielefeld and maybe you will be on the right path to discovering the origin of this fine old machine.

 

On 9/2/2015 at 8:04 PM, Evo160K said:

Here are some pictures of Glenn's recently acquired "Shoepatcher On Steroids. Note the crate and the machine were damaged slightly.

If anyone knows the name or the manufacturer of this machine or can supply any information about it, would you please post it? Thank you.

Hugo Hengstenberg leather patcher
You will find logo That will look the same. Some with D & S or S & H or just the D or H.

Carl Schmidt & Nikolaus Dürkopp started out together after they left Carl Baer & Heinrich Koch and designed their own machines. Later on Carl Schmidt left Nikolaus Dürkopp and worked with Hugo Hengstenberg. And finally Carl Schmidt left Hengstenberg to work for Singer company. Confusing ?

Baer & Rempel (Phoenix), Koch & Co, Dürkopp & Schmidt, Dürkopp, C Schmidt, C Schmidt & Hengstenberg and finally Hengstenberg & CO (later changed to Anker-Werke AG), Dürkopp & Adler. It all started in Bielefeld... Sole survivor today is Dürkopp.

I do stand corrected if any one else jumps in here.

[shoepatcher]

Thank you.  Great work on the history and emblems.  I retire in 2 months. This machine is on the shelf for  restoration.  Unfortunately, so are about 50 other shoe patchers!

glenn

[HatoriKun]

9 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Thank you.  Great work on the history and emblems.  I retire in 2 months. This machine is on the shelf for  restoration.  Unfortunately, so are about 50 other shoe patchers!

glenn

Ooh...Hopefully some one else will continue.

Forgot to say with the Emblem´s. They all look similar!

What you need to look for is what is in the crest.

...S with a D in the top of the crest (Carl Schmidt & Nikolaus Dürkopp).

...S in the crest (Carl Schmidt).

...C & H (Carl Schmidt & Hengstenberg).

Now who have what patent on the machines...Not sure

[marronne]

Hello

To continue this very interesting topic of cobbler's machines and emblems/coats of arms ... we recently purchased this handsome gentlemen in France for restoration.  It looks like a Durkopp 17 but the bobbin winder is completely different - fixed higher up the stand and with its own gear wheel.  Also, a gear wheel is visible to the left of the balance wheel, which does not seem to feature in the Durkopp 17 range. 

There are no names nor decals - only faint traces of leaves.  We can find no serial number - just "35" stamped on a small square plate on the head of the machine.  It also has a boat shuttle with the hook mechanism for drawing in the top thread.    

The crest is interesting - clearly Bielefeld with the castle and chevron shield and also Schmidt with the big S but it looks like there is a D and C in the shield on the eagle's chest.

So what is it we are wondering?  @Constabulary or @shoepatcher - with your combined encyclopaedia of machines do you have an idea?  I hope I've described it enough to help ... along with photos.

Thanks

[Constabulary]

if not Dürkopp I would assume Christian Mansfeld (Leipzig) but I´m not sure.

[shoepatcher]

Looks like a Durkopp but their were other patchers that looked like Durkopp' s as well.    This machine has a long throat on it.

glenn