Members Jeep1967 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Members Report Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Ok, second carving. I think I let it dry enough based on the tooling marks at the bottom of the first image. I started tooling the project after getting the darkest test stamps. Your feedback is appreciated, even if it is telling me I made the same mistakes. Edited March 3, 2015 by Jeep1967 Quote
Members ramblinrovers Posted March 3, 2015 Members Report Posted March 3, 2015 Well I never was good at roses so maybe I'll just shut up now, since I'm being of no help whatsoever:) Quote
Thor Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 Well a detailed how to can be found in the Stohlman book How To Carve Leather. As for critique - I wouldn't use a checkered anything on the leaves etc. Besides that using a checkered stamp for the background and for parts of the pattern isn't very good. The eye gets confused. A smooth or lined beveler would be the tool of choice for the the leaves. Also where the leaf folds over an undercut would do a terrific job. Try to avoid walking marks. In some parts the cuts are deeper than you beveled. If you start the backgrounding process work away from your picture. Get yourself a tipped beveler (triangle shaped) F976, F910, F941 for example. Those are the tools of choice for the leaves instead of the cuts. Cuts really just go on the stem. I'm not doing roses all too often and didn't take a close up of my last one, but this might help a bit. The stripe is about 3" wide. One can tell, that the roses and leaves are not that big. I didn't smooth the blossom leaves on purpose as there isn't a straight flat leaf on a rose. Quote
Members Jeep1967 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Members Report Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the feedback, Thor. I had originally planned to use a smooth beveler, but after a few seconds, I realized that my smooth beveler is a piece of junk that is too rounded in all directions and made it impossible to tool with any precision or consistency. The checkered beveler was the only workable beveler that I had. My smooth pear shader was much too large, so I used the smaller, checkered pear shader. I didn't have any tool appropriate for doing the leaves, so I improvised with the knife cuts. Oh, and when I first started cutting with the swivel knife, I was using a new (smaller) blade that had not been polished enough and was dragging a lot. The dragging blade required much more variable force, which hindered my ability to make smooth cuts with consistent depth. About halfway though the cutting, I changed to the polished blade and it cut so much easier I have learned several things from this project and your feedback. 1. Think about, and make sure you have the tools you will need to complete a particular design. 2. Make sure your tools are in good working condition. Do some test cuts or impressions prior to starting your project. 3. I need to buy more, decent quality tools as my meager budget allows. 4. Too much checkering is not a good look. 5. A simple looking rose pattern is more complex than it appears. Thanks, Brad Edited March 3, 2015 by Jeep1967 Quote
Northmount Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 I would also taper the background matting out so you don't see a defined line, or drop the matting altogether. Tom Quote
Members Jeep1967 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Members Report Posted March 3, 2015 I would also taper the background matting out so you don't see a defined line, or drop the matting altogether. Tom Thanks, Tom. I had thought about using a backgrounder starting at the initial edge bevel and tapering it off towards the outer edges, but my background tool, like many of my tools, was cheap and wouldn't leave a decent impression, so I kind of skipped over that and forgot about doing anything with the background. I probably won't attempt any more carving until I can save up and get more tools that are better quality. Thanks, again, for the feedback. Brad Quote
Contributing Member Bob Blea Posted March 4, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted March 4, 2015 Don't feel bad. Roses are actually one of the harder flowers to carve and for the tools you have, you are doing pretty good. Keep at it! Quote There are always possibilities.... Bob Blea C and B Leathercrafts Fort Collins, CO Visit my shop at http://www.etsy.com/shop/CandBLeather?ref=si_shop Instagram @bobbleacandbleather
Members Jeep1967 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Members Report Posted March 5, 2015 Don't feel bad. Roses are actually one of the harder flowers to carve and for the tools you have, you are doing pretty good. Keep at it! Thanks, Bob. I'm not giving up. Just gonna wait til I can get a few more usable tools before I give it another try. I have learned a lot from doing these two practice carvings, and from the feedback given on here. Brad Quote
Members Tarawhite Posted March 5, 2015 Members Report Posted March 5, 2015 I taught myself while I lived in UK for 3 years... no one to teach me. I do not tool Sheridan style...I guess you can say, I tool my own style. I sculpt tiles as well, and incorporated my experience in creating dimension into my leather tooling. Most patterned tools (that create the cross hatching) are best used on background, and in crevices. The antique dyes work great with those tools as the dye catches in the roughness of the pattern.. and this creates more dimension. The one critique I have of your first projects (and great job BTW) is that when you do background work (around the edges of the design) try to fade the patterning gently into the no tooled area of leather... no harsh lines. It should not take 5 hours for leather to dry to a point you can tool... a simple spray bottle works, cover piece with one even layer of H20, and then let sit. It should take no more than 15 minutes to be able to start tooling. If piece starts to dry out, just spray lightly another layer. Less is more with water. I do understand you are working with limited tools. This past year I invested in three huge job lots of vintage tools on Ebay. The look of my work is much crisper now because of the better crafted tools from years ago. Do research on what markings make a craftool vintage, and invest in those, instead of your local tandy store. The tools now are not machine made, they are created from molds, and over time , the molds loose their edges, which results in poor patterning. Keep up the great work! ~Tara www.etsy.com/shop/sevenannine www.facebook/sevenannine Quote
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