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As long as you are sure you have the correct screw in the V groove on the shaft, you should be good. If you remove a set screw, you can tell by its markings if it were in a groove, or on the round part of the shaft. This is sometimes the only way you can tell if you didn't do a good marking job. Once you know you have it correct and it's sewing good, I always go back and take a small cold chisel and mark the hole in the belt pulley that lines of with the V groove.

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Coeta, although I have one of these machines I can't really offer any useful advice as mine is working. I would, however, like to say well done for resurrecting this machine, I reckon you've done a great job so far!

(A garden ornament! What a waste :bawling:).

Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

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Coeta, although I have one of these machines I can't really offer any useful advice as mine is working. I would, however, like to say well done for resurrecting this machine, I reckon you've done a great job so far!

(A garden ornament! What a waste :bawling:).

Can you line up the B mark on the pulley with the cut out line on the casing

Take then a pic of the shaft where you can see at least two of the cut out grooves in order so that I can confirm if the feed driving eccentric is correctly timed

(in order to rule out if the shaft grooves is in the incorrect position)

...Eric I have checked the screws and some of them were in the incorrect position (flat headed ones on the groove and they did not lock the part on the shaft)..

I changed them and are all correct now...thanx

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I really need some advice/assistance now...I have worked on this machine non stop for 12 hours for 2 days now,,reading paragraph for paragraph and apply it step for step as I read it but stil I did not succeed.I also got the clip from Uwe Grosse on how to setup the Consew hook timing. So thats why I put in another request for some help..maybe maybe I will get it correct:

I have set the belt for propper sync.

Stitch lenght to zero and corrected the needle bar hight for 2.4mm on the upwards movement,,got the hook as close as possible to the needle, in the centre line/thread and 1.5mm above the eye , set the needle guard as per the book

So the timing is perfect.

I set the machine up for synchronous feed so I kept it at 0 SPI , loosened up the reverse feeding mechanism and moved the crank to the centre.

Needlebar rock frame - Adjusted the needlbar distance from the vibrating pressure bar to be 7.5mm.

Then I set the stitches to max:

Set the feeddog so that the valley are pointing out as much as possible and let the needle enter a little bit in the front of the middle of the needlehole.

Then I loosend up the bottom set screw to adjust the forward stitch lenght to be 5 stitches per inch.then the reverse feeding mechanism for it to be the same length as for forward sticth and this is where my problems start I dont get the reverse sticth length to be the same as the forward length

forward is 5 stitches per inch and reversed it stays at about 11 or 12 even after I have locked the screw on the bottom crank. When I turn the bearing pin to rest against the bearing block the stitch length does not change.

Then I realised when i turn the handwheel the reverse feeding lever drops about 5mm and stops every time the needlebar reaches a downward stroke.

So then from me been tired I mistakenly loosend the wrong screw instead of the blue I loosend the red one there was one cluck sound from something that was under tension and now its nomore...

I dont get any further, cant get the machine to feed, although it is on the max stitch length it only stitch about 2mm,,,when I use the reverse feed the needle point get stuck on the feeddog....so basically the whole thing is no screwed after I loosend up the wrong screw on that top shaft.

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The pressure foot is makeing a deep pressure on the paper as if it is pulling it in the groove plate...what do i need to set to keep it from pressing it to far down

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The red circle in previous post...that shaft.....when the machine marks are lined up in the sync position what is the zero position that shaft must be on as there is pinned block for the reverse feeding....

With that red incircled screw loose so that the shaft can rotate I loosend the lock nut and bearing nut and set it so that there is no forward or rearward movement from the needlebar rocking frame

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well finally I got the 211 to sew though I am no mechanic, had to learn how to use the thread tension system finally got it correct and I had a few threads onto the material...some minor settings might need to be tweaked as it will only do max 5 STI when adjusting the stitch length only one notch back the stitch is very small...so I suspect it must be the bottom cam that is not 100 % lined up also when reversing the needle hits the feeddog, when tested with paper it did not hit it tough maybe some screw is not fastened enough and got out of its position but I am getting there..then after about 20 stitches the thread breaks..... the thread is close to the hook point when it is under the throatplate,,cant see properly what is going on down there but I will get it fixed

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Well, I´m seriously impressed! I have to admit that I really thought you would not get this "thing" back to life! Patience pays off - Congratulations!!!! :)

~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~

Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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I'm impressed this is being done in the short amount of time, patience is a key.

There has been some very good post on the site here, with hello moments I seen for myself.

And with the work your doing and searching old post many in the future will continue the journey.

It all is much easier when the parts are cleaned up for sure.

Looks like your getting in the area where a tablet writing down what you did at step 2.a is going to be good.

I wanted to say, the photos and the quality are really great, that part is so helpful down the road for others.

I wished I had put more time in that, now its easier to understand why relatives always told everyone to stop shutup smile.

good job

Floyd

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Well I stuff it up again..need to start from scratch settings...as I wanted to fix the

reverse stitching length to be exact as forward. I realised after a week of oiling that does not sweat next to shaft entry points where they rotate on the super oilite bearings .....the oil channels were clogged up...I had to remove the shaft where the feeddog are attached thus lessons learned....if you stripp do it propperly...:-)

See stitch lengths...I cant seem to figure out to correct it for revers

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