This vs That (Differences in Fiebings dyes, and differences in it's antique products)

[Goldberry]

Hey all,

I'm getting a bit confused in the dyes and antiques you can buy from Fiebings.

I'm using the spirit based (regular) ones at the moment, since they have many more colors available for this one in my favourite webshop. Though they also sell the pro oil dye, what's you experience in their difference? And their Acrylic dyes, how are these different? does this compare to the Cova from Eco-flo? (So, more of a surface dye which gives this very bright 'unnatural' color as if you're using your leather as a canvas?)

 

I'm also wondering about their antiques. My webshop sells two types of Fiebings antiques; Antique leather stain (Water-soluble antique finish on acrylic base) and Fiebing's antique finish. Is there anybody who an explain the difference in these?

I'm using Eco-flo antique paste at the moment, and am generally quite happy with it. Does either one of Fiebings resemble this?

 

Thanks in advance and sorry for all the noob questions.

[Colt W Knight]

Fiebings acrylic dye is actually not dye, just a paint designed for use on leather - similar to Angelus Acrylic leather paint. 

My experience with regular fuebings dye vs pro oil dye. Pro oil dye is better. Its covers better and doesnt bleed as bad. Im not sure about the chemistry difference between them. 

I don't have any experience with the antiques you mention, but i am wanting to try fiebings antique paste. Ive been usimg ecoflow antique gel and that stuff is just messy to use, and i feel like i waste a lot using it. 

[Goldberry]

Thanks!

[jrny4wrd]

Ever find out the differences between the antiques? The place I normally buy from no longer has the paste but rather and antique dye. ??

[Goldberry]

Haven't yet.. 

My batch of gel hasn't run out yet, so didn't try new stuff yet. 

[NVLeatherWorx]

The biggest difference between the Antique paste and the antique stain is that the stain gives more of a dyed appearance, i.e. it is full coverage and deep penetrating so it looks just like it has been dyed.  The paste version gives the leather a patina that still allows the full character of the leather to come through and if you are working with the technique of doing what is called resisted you can only achieve that unique 2-tone look with the paste.  The paste is also flexible enough that you can actually create your own unique tones by blending the past and spirit/oil dyes together for some really spectacular colors and results.  I have used the Fiebing's products for over 40 years and I stand by their quality and versatility.  I have given everything else that has come along a chance to change my mind and have yet to find another product that offers the results and consistency of the Fiebing's line.  I use them for everything and I even have wholesale and distribution pricing with them.

[bikermutt07]

1 hour ago, NVLeatherWorx said:

The biggest difference between the Antique paste and the antique stain is that the stain gives more of a dyed appearance, i.e. it is full coverage and deep penetrating so it looks just like it has been dyed.  The paste version gives the leather a patina that still allows the full character of the leather to come through and if you are working with the technique of doing what is called resisted you can only achieve that unique 2-tone look with the paste.  The paste is also flexible enough that you can actually create your own unique tones by blending the past and spirit/oil dyes together for some really spectacular colors and results.  I have used the Fiebing's products for over 40 years and I stand by their quality and versatility.  I have given everything else that has come along a chance to change my mind and have yet to find another product that offers the results and consistency of the Fiebing's line.  I use them for everything and I even have wholesale and distribution pricing with them.

You have any pics of something mixing the dye and paste together?

[NVLeatherWorx]

No pics but it is just like tinting regular paint; just take your paste and put some in a container (I use paper plates) and add some dye, a little at a time, and then mix it together.  Have some scrap leather around to do some small test areas until you get the look that you are shooting for.  This is true control over the final look and the results are literally limitless.

[Goldberry]

That sounds like an amazing way of getting nice tints! Now I usually first antique (paste) and then go over it with a dye (only works for Fiebings which I have learned to appreciate over anything else in the last weeks while experimenting a lot with dyeing). I'll give it a try on some scrap =) 

And thank you for the explanation of the difference between antique dye and paste! 

 

 

 

[JBZ]

On 7/17/2016 at 5:35 PM, NVLeatherWorx said:

The biggest difference between the Antique paste and the antique stain is that the stain gives more of a dyed appearance, i.e. it is full coverage and deep penetrating so it looks just like it has been dyed.  The paste version gives the leather a patina that still allows the full character of the leather to come through and if you are working with the technique of doing what is called resisted you can only achieve that unique 2-tone look with the paste.  The paste is also flexible enough that you can actually create your own unique tones by blending the past and spirit/oil dyes together for some really spectacular colors and results.  I have used the Fiebing's products for over 40 years and I stand by their quality and versatility.  I have given everything else that has come along a chance to change my mind and have yet to find another product that offers the results and consistency of the Fiebing's line.  I use them for everything and I even have wholesale and distribution pricing with them.

Very helpful. Thank you.