Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 12, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted July 12, 2016 Front, back, whelp. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted July 12, 2016 Moderator Report Posted July 12, 2016 My thickest holster job in recent times was a full 7/8 inch along the stitch line. There were four 8 oz layers of filler inside the approximately 10 ounce front and back piece. I had to readjust the machine for minimum alternating foot lift, using the slotted plate and a #25 diamond point needle, with #277 thread. The presser bar had to be raised to clear the stack of leather and the inside foot position dinked with to get the leather to feed. This would have been much easier to accomplish on my last Union Lockstitch machine, which I already had modified to sew 7/8 inch. You can't beat a jump foot needle and awl machine for thick sewing. Here is a photo of the filler side before it was slicked and edge dyed. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Ken Nelson Posted July 12, 2016 Members Report Posted July 12, 2016 I used to have a Luberto's Classic that would sew an honest inch of skirting leather. I wish I had not sold it. Wonderful machine and simple. Quote
Members JerseyFirefighter Posted July 12, 2016 Members Report Posted July 12, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 7:27 PM, bikermutt07 said: Me neither. But recently i started investigating the machines just out of curiosity. Mostly because there are so many posts concerning them. From what i can gather, anything less than a 2000.00 dollar investment will fall short of what i would be happy with. That's a lot of scratch for a hobby. Maybe someday I can justify it or just afford it and get one. Till then it's hand stitches for me. I went through these same mental hoops. Posted here with a $500 budget looking for a machine to sew a 12oz of leather, begrudgingly upped my budget to over $1000, then went big instead of going home and dropped almost 3x that on my machine. It is a little different because I had been selling products for a few months already, but i'm sure budget will slowly start creeping upwards (not to my extreme I gather). I'm guessing although it's a hobby you sell some of your work..I dedicated a few month or so of profit to offset the hit. Couldnt be happier with not settling. Quote Rob www.ridgewayleatherworks.com IG: @Ridgewayleatherworks FB: RidgewayLeatherworks
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted July 12, 2016 Moderator Report Posted July 12, 2016 I now Grok that the OP may have been looking for a hobbyist's sewing machine, with no plans for a full blown commercial machine. The two that come to mind are the Tippmann Boss and the Luberto Cub. Both are hand operated, mountable on the edge of a desk or table, or work bench. They can sew up to from about 1/8" up to 3/4 inch with #346 thread, using system 794 needles. They aren't cheap, but will suffice for small pre-production and one-off runs of holsters, belts, horse tack and such. They are also good for repairing these items. A determined hobbyist could pay for such a machine in a few months, then decide whether it is time to move up to a motorized machine, or stay put. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
bikermutt07 Posted July 12, 2016 Report Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, JerseyFirefighter said: I went through these same mental hoops. Posted here with a $500 budget looking for a machine to sew a 12oz of leather, begrudgingly upped my budget to over $1000, then went big instead of going home and dropped almost 3x that on my machine. It is a little different because I had been selling products for a few months already, but i'm sure budget will slowly start creeping upwards (not to my extreme I gather). I'm guessing although it's a hobby you sell some of your work..I dedicated a few month or so of profit to offset the hit. Couldnt be happier with not settling. that's great. i haven't sold anything as of yet. right now I'm just doing one project at a time. They are all firsts for me. I have made a fixed knife sheath, a folder knife sheath, a cell holster, and a tote. I'm currently working on a wallet. My next project will be maybe a belt. I once loved motorcycles till I had a motorcycle magazine. Now, it's just two wheel transportation without ac. I won't let that be the fate of this hobby. I'm really more concerned with a burnishing machine for now. Burnishing seems to suck big time by hand. Yesterday I secured a pump motor from a whirlpool tub. I'm hoping to find a burnisher that will bolt up straight away. I have a line on some but have to see what the shaft on the pump is. Hand stitching on the other hand I find pretty relaxing. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
mikesc Posted July 12, 2016 Report Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Front, back, whelp. whelp ?.. a young dog ? "predictive text" for "welt" ( the edge , where it appears really thick there, the 7/8" part ) I presume ? Don't get much call for handgun holsters here..and I can't find much about the technical names for the various parts, but I know that on shoes the edge area "sandwich" is the "welt".. Edited July 12, 2016 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 12, 2016 Contributing Member Report Posted July 12, 2016 Yes, "whelp" was an attempt at hillbilly humor, a personal rendition of a "redneck joke", farce. Officially, it's a welt (in this case, single layer of heavy(ish) leather stitched between the back 'n' front to open the form without making it wider side to side. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members TheITMan Posted July 12, 2016 Author Members Report Posted July 12, 2016 Welt that answers that. lol TY for the clarification JLS. Quote
mikesc Posted July 12, 2016 Report Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Indeed, thanks for clearing that up JLS :) ( I remember when I was last in the USA , a lot of the jokes went right over my head, as they required a knowledge of the cultural references of the moment and area, which even as a visitor of a few times, I did not always have )..the urban dictionary helps sometimes ( when I hear or read a word that I'm not expecting in particular context ), but they seem to have a one track mind..or ..every word has at least one xxx meaning.. ;) I do know someone in the US who begins many of his sentences with "whelp".. When I was a kid in Ireland, it was something the neighbours used to call me when I was less than good..as in "you young whelp".. ;) Edited July 12, 2016 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
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