Matt S Report post Posted August 26, 2016 Looking at buying a 45K5 missing its presser foot. Generic industrial lockstitch feet look like they'll work, or could be fettled to work -- as I was advised by a technician. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted August 26, 2016 Looks like the 45K5 was designed for roller feet which may be pricey (there's one on Ebay right now for $117 : http://r.ebay.com/AMAUJB ) I've not tried to install other feet on a 45K so I can't comment on that. I do know that 45K hooks are readily available from various sources, including me http://r.ebay.com/WCsheT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted August 26, 2016 Ah interesting point I hadn't considered -- would the presser bar be a different size or style to a foot-type machine? The parts list describes the K5 as identical to the K1, except for the roller assembly being substituted for the presser foot. No different presser bar or indeed any other part than those of the roller assembly are listed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) The presser bar of the 45K5 does look like it would also accept regular presser feet with the flat mount point at the bottom of the presser bar. The roller foot appears to just clamp to the round portion of the presser bar above the flat mount point - at least that's what the pictures seem to indicate. Sometimes the different subclasses have only very minor differences with only very few parts swapped out. Edited August 26, 2016 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted August 26, 2016 Usually the regular 45K feet fit fit if your presser foot bar has a angular shaped end with a threaded hole. The roller foot usually (if its the original) has a ring clamp and slides over the presser foot bar and can moved up and dow freely. If your bars has no angular shaped end (you never know) send me a PM I may have a presser foot bar for you. Not sure what you consider as Generic industrial lockstitch feet but the standard presser feet of F.I. the Singer 31K15 and the like do not fit. The 45K has MUCH large presser feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted August 26, 2016 Matt S Here's a parts list with pictures for the K1, K5 and K11. Maybe it will have some answers. http://hensewfiles.com/PDFs/SINGER 45K5.pdf Looks like the K1 and K5 are identical with the exception of the roller foot, as you said. Since they share the same presser bar, the usual feet for a K1 or K25 (cylinder arm) will fit on the presser bar. The roller foot does clamp around the presser bar. Others more familiar with using the machines will need to tell you if you can sew with a regular foot on a K5. I suspect it will, because the regular foot sews in place of the roller foot on my K25. I have an extra roller foot and wax pot if you need them, they're not Simanco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) Hi Everyone, Matt, it wouldnt be this one on ebay you are looking at without the foot and class nº plate would it?? if it is this one is not a 45k 5?? Edited August 27, 2016 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Aye jimi that's the one. Been on for a while so I'm trying to negotiate a price with the seller. Is it not a k5 then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) No Matt, that is a 45k58. it has what they call a jump foot action. here is a video of one. one guy is selling feet for this class on ebay for 45 quid!, you can see them all chromed up looking. you would need the screw for holding the foot on also i think. the feed dogs and needle plates etc can be found here: https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/store/Singer45KSewingMachineParts . also ask the owner if it has a shuttle? Edited August 27, 2016 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) Here is the description Matt. i would say this type is better than the 45k1 or 5 as the foot moves with the material unlike the 45k1 etc so you would probably get a little less marking on the bottom side. but remember that this machine could be very worn? you might have to replace more parts than you think and some are not that easy to find, not impossible to find but could be expensive. so hammer that price down as far as possible matt if you are going for it. i personally think it is not worth that money with all of the missing parts and the fact you cannot try it out. Edited August 27, 2016 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Feet for this particular machine type are no longer available on the "free market" - maybe a LW member has a few for sale but I don´t know a dealer who has them in stock. Unless you like tinkering I would probably not buy this machine w/o knowing where to find at least the presser feet. You also need a needle clamp and probably want to replace the needle plate and most likely the feed dog. Does the machine have the shuttle hook? No matter what you pay for it be aware that you probably have to invest 100 - 150 GBP before it is working again and that does not include motor and table. Machine is from 1915 BTW so this really is a gamble. You cannot test it before you have all the parts and then you can try if it is sewing or not. In the current state I would not pay more than maybe 50GBP for it as it. 250 GPB is way over priced for a 100 years old machine in this condition I´d say. I don´t say that it will not sew but be careful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt S Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Constabulary and jimi I take your points concerning the age and unknown state of the machine. Yes I do like tinkering but I'm going to need this machine to work. As you say feed dogs and needle plates are really available. Reproduction needle clamps are available from China. The seller has some feet available for £30 each which is more reasonable but I wonder why he hasn't put one on this machine to increase its value. It has a shuttle and apparently the machine turns over without binding or sticking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted August 27, 2016 Exactly Matt, if you want to sell your machine being someone who works or sells sewing machines the first thing you do is to get it up and running to show people how it sews. if not maybe it is not worthwhile?? i bought one similar a while back and it was a bit more rusty looking, it had no shuttle or race and the tension spring was a botch up job. the needle bar is worn and wiggles but i put the parts from my other 45 in to test it and it sews! it is from 1894 and cost me €50 with transport included. so it was no big loss if it was totally gone. old machines are a risk, i personally like to risk it and take on a challenge - but at the right price?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted August 28, 2016 also be careful with the feed dogs - there are 45K flat bed and 45K cylinder bed machines and they do not use the same feed dog. You can find some 45K spare parts at College Sewing UK for reasonable prices: https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/?s=45k This is the feed dog you need. 91607 FEED SINGER 45K So when you are really interested in buying the mentioned 45K I probably have a needle bar clamp but have to look for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
