Bought a Singer 211U567B Need Help With Drip Pan

[Constabulary]

2 hours ago, Gregg From Keystone Sewing said:

Very interesting, I didn't know that Singer was first with that type of spring/weight upper arm oil reservoir on some 211/212 subclass machies.  I thought it first appeared on Seiko machines such as 255RB, 333RB, or 339RB type machines.

This most commonly called 'centralized lubrication', meaning that it's not automatic, but that it will help spread oil as the machine operates by lubricating one point that will carry oil through usually oil wicks.

Hey Gregg, yes, I always wondered what in particular this thing does. I understand that it keeps the oil "in motion" while sewing but I don´t understand WHY since the wick is laying flat in the oil bath anyway. Maybe I´m just not clever enough My simple mind thinks that the oil system would work w/o this vibrating spring thingy as well - or is it just a "marketing feature" - like "we have in vented this new and clever oil vibrating pump thingy"

Edited January 12, 2017 by Constabulary

[brmax]

I think you nailed it

3 hours ago, Constabulary said:

"marketing feature"

That there probably changed the patent just enough.

They could have called it some cool names but we all know they didn't want to use the real ( vibrating sucker pump ) hehehe

though they should have to be clear  

Floyd

Edited January 12, 2017 by brmax

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

On 1/12/2017 at 2:41 PM, Constabulary said:

Hey Gregg, yes, I always wondered what in particular this thing does. I understand that it keeps the oil "in motion" while sewing but I don´t understand WHY since the wick is laying flat in the oil bath anyway. Maybe I´m just not clever enough My simple mind thinks that the oil system would work w/o this vibrating spring thingy as well - or is it just a "marketing feature" - like "we have in vented this new and clever oil vibrating pump thingy"

See attached, this is from the Seiko book for the same oil mechanism.  

If it works, and I can tell you has never been a service issue then it works.  It may be a keeping up with the Jones or marketing type of stuff, but if I can oil one hole instead of nine, then I'll take it!

[Kellen]

Thanks for everyone's comments. I spent some time cleaning up my machine today. Once I pulled the top off, I think I am starting to understand how the oil wicking system works. Everything seems to be in good shape!

 

[dikman]

Floyd, that's a pretty snappy photo you posted, looks a bit like it was sprayed with chrome paint. Very smooth!

[brmax]

Thank ya!, that was a first machine purchase for me, though wishing at auction it was a walker as Kellen found.

Back then it was cleaned up pretty well and with the top being aluminum it took a shine after paint removal.

I always keep an eye out for them 211 after doing a bit of learning with mine they are some nice smooth running machines.

Still kick myself for missing one several years ago on the internet sale place craigslist, it was couple hours away used in theatre work.

Anyway its pretty cool seeing some others on here with their machines they find. Then putting the super tune on them getting ready for work again.

Good day

Floyd

[dikman]

Polished huh, who'd a thought. You did a good job on it!

Yeah, I think we all kick ourselves at some time over the one that got away. I know I have, that's why the last one I just bought I didn't waste any time, hadn't been up long and once I'd confirmed it was a walking foot I grabbed it. A 1 hour drive across town (before it got too hot, but I still sweated dismantling it) but it was worth it.

[fbmini]

Here some picture of the Original oilpan of my 211U567B

and some more. Hope this helps.

[Parfektionisto]

My Singer 211 has the same oil pan as fbmini, which at first I thought it's not the original. I think the original 211u did not come with a knee lifter, so you can see an ugly cut out hole on the oil pan to install a knee lifter. 

[Cla06026]

I'm not sure where you landed on this topic, but I purchased the same machine, or close (I have the 211U566), and I've been reading through the manual and it does have a pump - however, I believe it's just for the hook lubrication. Did you ever find the oil fill hole?  I think it's the same hole that the oil gauge goes in.  All the other oil holes lead to some kind of wick that lubricates a bearing or something like that.  

Have you ever looked into touchup paint or Decals for this machine?  Yours looks like it's in great shape - whereas mine could use a little more work.