Stealing Pictures of Others Work

[immiketoo]

On 3/13/2017 at 1:39 AM, cjartist said:

I love it when other's pin my work.  It is great marketing.

Only if people know its you, then I agree.

 

[NVLeatherWorx]

I "watermark" everything just so it is known who it belongs to.  I have actually found some of my "watermarked" images being used by another local weekender and had to shut it down because he wasn't even following through on most of his requests and I wasn't about to get my name dragged into that mess.

[Sceaden]

The issue is if someone claims credit for a "pin", the nature of Pinterest is finding and saving all types of cool stuff and does not in any way mean that you created the content. But yes, watermarking images in today's world is probably the best bet because stuff is constantly shared but it's easy to lose track of the origin.

Case in point, I saw a really cool tattoo design that I wanted to use for leather work so I followed the links until I ended up at an origin site that had nothing to do with an artist so I gave up on using it since I like to get permission if its an original creation. 

I ended up "pinning" a few cool designs and my wife just made up an even better design based on the inspiration.

[Sceaden]

On a slightly different note, what are your thoughts on "stealing" someone else's design idea? Do you typically contact them and ask them if you can use it or is reverse engineering based on photos considered ok? 

 

For example, this Carving Thumb Guard is a cool idea that looks fast and easy to make with a good profit margin, is it ok to basically rip off the design since it is so universal? 

[NVLeatherWorx]

1 hour ago, Sceaden said:

On a slightly different note, what are your thoughts on "stealing" someone else's design idea? Do you typically contact them and ask them if you can use it or is reverse engineering based on photos considered ok? 

 

For example, this Carving Thumb Guard is a cool idea that looks fast and easy to make with a good profit margin, is it ok to basically rip off the design since it is so universal? 

You can contact the maker and see what they say about it but, unless the item is truly registered and/or patented, there isn't much stopping you, or anyone else, from making something like this and moving forward on it.  The key to true protection of your works is attached to the expense of actually registering them and obtaining a patent/Trademark/Copyright on them; merely saying that your works are protected without having anything legal to back it up does not prohibit one from copying it.  As a professional courtesy you should always respect the works and creativity of others and, in the event that you "copy" any of their designs, you should give them credit when doing so.  I would however bet that if you were to search the Internet a bit more that the vary design that you have linked above is available from several different sources in one fashion or another so that would not make it a unique item which would make it that much easier to create your own version of it.

[immiketoo]

On 3/18/2017 at 4:58 PM, Sceaden said:

On a slightly different note, what are your thoughts on "stealing" someone else's design idea? Do you typically contact them and ask them if you can use it or is reverse engineering based on photos considered ok? 

 

For example, this Carving Thumb Guard is a cool idea that looks fast and easy to make with a good profit margin, is it ok to basically rip off the design since it is so universal? 

Same thing in the holster world.  Only so many ways to wrap a gun in leather.  That said, there are many stylistic cues that are "borrowed" all the time.

[nrk]

there also someone behind 'grleather' - if you scroll the posts, you'll notice that all of the content do not belong to grleather or whatever

is there anyone from the forum, who recognizes own products, and as a next step to push instagram to shut down the page??

[JLSleather]

On 1/15/2017 at 0:19 PM, NVLeatherWorx said:

you can use his patterns to create works that you sell but you cannot reproduce the content of his writings in any fashion

This is - in a nutshell - the essence of copyright law.  If you purchase a pattern, or instructions, etc -- you have the right to make goods from that, INCLUDING items for future sale. What is actually protected is the WRITING ITSELF.

Keep in mind always... a copyright is only good to the extent that it is enforced.  You can send letters all day long to "tell" someone not to use your images (patterns, articles, whatever) but to actually stop them you would need a judgment, which is neither instantaneous or free.

[nrk]

16 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

This is - in a nutshell - the essence of copyright law.  If you purchase a pattern, or instructions, etc -- you have the right to make goods from that, INCLUDING items for future sale. What is actually protected is the WRITING ITSELF.

Keep in mind always... a copyright is only good to the extent that it is enforced.  You can send letters all day long to "tell" someone not to use your images (patterns, articles, whatever) but to actually stop them you would need a judgment, which is neither instantaneous or free.

there is no such a thing like judgement.
yes, there are countries, where everything is based on law and very strict; and there are countries, where no one gives 'anything' to it

What I mean, is just human being in it's base

[JLSleather]

Yeah, I'm just talking about the U.S., since I wouldn't know anything about anywhere else.  Copyright law is not "somebody's opinion" or a "feeling" here.

Copyright Law in the United States. Copyright law in the U.S. is governed by federal statute, namely the Copyright Act of 1976. The Copyright Act prevents the unauthorized copying of a work of authorship. However, only the copying of the work is prohibited--anyone may copy the ideas contained within a work.... (etc.)

I always get a "kick" though, out of those people who make something with Dr Who, Mickey Mouse, or Harley-Davidson, and then accuse others of copying them!