Contributing Member JLSleather Posted February 2, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted February 2, 2017 People do NOT bring me firearms. If you are approaching me with a weapon, I absolutely should KNOW you. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted February 2, 2017 Members Report Posted February 2, 2017 3D printer. Solved the gun thing for me. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted February 2, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted February 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, LumpenDoodle2 said: 3D printer. Solved the gun thing for me. Where did you get the dimensions for the printer? Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
MADMAX22 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) On 2/1/2017 at 6:14 PM, TrooperChuck said: When I first started my shop I had no mold guns, so I had to take in the customer's gun in order to make their custom holster. But, I soon found out it is illegal to do that! Unless you have a Federal Firearms License you can not legally take a gun from the customer to make their holster! As ridiculous as is sounds, taking a customer's gun and then giving it back to them after you make the holster is considered a "transfer" and to legally transfer a gun nowadays you need an FFL. Crazy! I know. But, it's the world we live in nowadays. So, I ended up getting myself an FFL, but I am also now buying mold guns to add to my collection of tools. So, I've had to add a couple dollars to the cost of my holsters to help offset the cost of the mold guns. Some mold guns can be used for a variety of gun models. For instance, if you buy one Colt single action revolver mold gun you can use that to make holsters for any of the Colt clones and Ruger Vaqueros. That "law" came into effect about a year ago (maybe two). Before that it was not an issue and not against the law. All the liberals out here have been trying to turn this place into california and are doing a pretty good job of it. When the law was first enacted you couldnt even take your wife or other family member shooting at a range and hand them your gun. They had to write in a change or whatever its called so that family members could use your gun and give it back basically. If I remember right you cant even let your buddy your shooting with at the range plink a few rounds with your gun not that anyone I know follows that crap. Kitsap county passed a bunch of other stuff with it, like not being able to discharge a firearm within 500yds of any "wetland", news flash this whole western half of the state is a wetland. Also made a bunch of other stuff in the fine print like you cant shoot rifles that use ammo considered pistol ammo at the range, no 45lc lever actions or the like for instance. Its cool to shoot a 308 but dont dare pick up the lever action 45LC . Basically they dont want anyone to shoot on there own land, and they wanted to push out as many gun ranges as they could. Edited February 4, 2017 by MADMAX22 Quote
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted February 4, 2017 Members Report Posted February 4, 2017 On 02/02/2017 at 5:36 PM, JLSleather said: Where did you get the dimensions for the printer? I can't claim to have done the hard work. Some very kind folk on thingiverse did the work on constructing the gcode files on a couple of prop guns, which I found I could make use of. The parts are printed out, then you glue everything together. I googled the proper dimensions, then scaled within the software. Not a perfect solution, and if an alternative exists, it's a lot easier to take it, but it allows me to have a 'blue gun' which is adequate for my very basic needs. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted February 4, 2017 Contributing Member Report Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, LumpenDoodle2 said: I can't claim to have done the hard work. That does sound like a lot of work. Still, that could be useful for models which are truly custom. If i don't have a particular gun mold - this does not make an order "special order". To be a "special order" there would have to be something about it that I don't commonly do to all of them, or a color I don't use, etc. Oh, thanks for the reply, though. Some folks scared of their own shadow... they might share something useful with the next guy! Pathetic, but true. 'Course, that don't stop most of 'em from readin' your tips, mind you. I had seen that site (if there's a simple but accurate drawing of pistol models, I'd want to know that too) but didn't find anything useful there (some pretty pictures, but nothing to scale). Edited February 4, 2017 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted February 4, 2017 Members Report Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) I think the problem with 'useful' pistol gcode files, is the blind panic everyone got into when they heard that you could 3D print a gun. Being new at that sort of thing, I'm very grateful that someone has gone to the bother of designing even a basic file and made it available for anyone to download. Downside is, the files available are fine, but certainly not extensive, and with the best will in the world, they all have to be tweaked. I think we need someone who knows what they are doing to get files out there which actually could be useful. Imagine if you had a special order, and you just downloaded an accurate gcode file, and printed it out prior to starting the holster. I love the idea of printing out your own mould for wet forming leather to any design you want. Edited February 4, 2017 by LumpenDoodle2 Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Tnhunter Posted August 11, 2017 Members Report Posted August 11, 2017 I handle new mold guns this way and has worked for me. If the costs of the mold gun is $50.00 and the finished holster is $80.00, make the offer that if the client buys the mold gun, the finished holster is $30.00. If not, either refer to someone else or buy it yourself. Quote
Members AA3JW Posted August 12, 2017 Members Report Posted August 12, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 9:14 PM, TrooperChuck said: When I first started my shop I had no mold guns, so I had to take in the customer's gun in order to make their custom holster. But, I soon found out it is illegal to do that! Unless you have a Federal Firearms License you can not legally take a gun from the customer to make their holster! As ridiculous as is sounds, taking a customer's gun and then giving it back to them after you make the holster is considered a "transfer" and to legally transfer a gun nowadays you need an FFL. Crazy! I know. But, it's the world we live in nowadays. So, I ended up getting myself an FFL, but I am also now buying mold guns to add to my collection of tools. So, I've had to add a couple dollars to the cost of my holsters to help offset the cost of the mold guns. Some mold guns can be used for a variety of gun models. For instance, if you buy one Colt single action revolver mold gun you can use that to make holsters for any of the Colt clones and Ruger Vaqueros. Actually that is not true in all states, here in Florida, no FFL is needed for private transfers. Quote
Members plinkercases Posted August 12, 2017 Members Report Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Lumpendoodle2 the 3D printer is a great idea and I have been toying with it fro smaller items and seeing about making both the positive and negative mold/press parts.......also a good suggestion to use a new mold to make a few "stock" holsters and put them on the general market. I agree it is a cost of business..and tolls are a cost to figure into you tax situation.. I have bought custom stamps on a gamble that a guy could sell an item into a club he is a member of and it went no where.. others have paid for themselves over and over so... And if they sit on the shelf too long then use the forum or others to sell/swap I have exchanged back and forth when I have something the other guy doesn't and via versa.. like a mold pool (not what it sounds like) Edited August 12, 2017 by plinkercases Quote "Oh my God....I beseech thee grant me the grace to remain in Thy Presence; and to this end do Thou prosper me with Thy assistance, receive all my works, and possess all my affections" Brother Lawrence c.1614-1691 plinkercases.ca
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