How to attach a binder to a Singer 111W155?

[gottaknow]

13 minutes ago, mixmkr said:

The only negative  to the inline swing away though is if you're binding the inside of smaller curves, trying to shove the material up against the binder.  Outside curves are a piece of cake..  My right angle binder didn't like stiffer bindings though, as the binding get "inverted" going thru that type.  The swing away makes life easy though is too many ways.

When using heavy binding with inside curves, a 45 degree folder is fantastic. I use them for heavy twill that you can't even  get to fold out of a 90 degree folder. The swing guide is needed when you have to do a tie-in with your binding. They are more costly, but in a factory, folders and mounts pay for themselves quickly with reduced production costs. 

Regards, Eric 

[mixmkr]

45 degree ....oh yeah.  I'll have to think out how to get the straight line to "swing" into a 45, if that's even possible.  Double hinges for sure.   Great tip.  Thanks!!!

[gottaknow]

2 hours ago, mixmkr said:

45 degree ....oh yeah.  I'll have to think out how to get the straight line to "swing" into a 45, if that's even possible.  Double hinges for sure.   Great tip.  Thanks!!!

A 45 degree folder is neither an inline, or a right angle (90 degree). It's a class of folder by itself. It just relaxes the bend and allows heavy bindings to not only accommodate inside curves, but flow easily. They work great. I've never shopped for them online, I usually have them made. The companies like Tennessee Att. , Atlanta Att, etc do sell stock folders. The quality of these professional folders is way better than what most people buy online. Pre-made folders run $75-$300 custom folders are $1000-$1600. They're heavy stainless to withstand the abuse of a factory. That folder in my last picture has had 5000 yards of 1" leather ran through it in the last 6 months or so. It's also about 20 years old. I love doing folder work, pretty much on a daily basis. Most hobbyists can't justify the price, which is fine since it's overkill for occasional use. I have a lot of folders. The picture is my outer shop with the folders on the right, and the mounts to their left. 

Regards, Eric

[mixmkr]

Thanks Eric, ...don't want to hi-jack this thread, but I've learned a lot too.  Maybe some pics of a 45 degree binder when things slow down :-D    Good info, thx again.

[mixmkr]

Is this an approximation of what you're talking about?

[gottaknow]

1 hour ago, mixmkr said:

Is this an approximation of what you're talking about?

Yeah, that's one there. You can see the advantages. Able to do inside curves, but lets the binding flow better. 

Regards, Eric 

[Uwe]

Here's a picture of a binder setup for the Durkopp Adler 205, which shows both an 80˚ binder and a 45˚ binder (tape folder):

Edited February 5, 2017 by Uwe

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

If you are drilling and tapping holes into the bed of your machine, you're doing it wrong.

I made and attached an image of Juki with LU-563 with proper base plate from T/A, 460-563J mounted using 200095 Set Screw.  No mods, direct bolt on from the supplier.

Hope this helps.

Edited February 6, 2017 by Gregg From Keystone Sewing

[brmax]

Thats a great tip Gregg, the tac number i gave was used on a couple machines as the turn downs were ground off and so only used the screws for stabilizing. 

When i first seen mine i thought it may be for a 111 actual machine base with its number, and in that its possible as your photo showing a 563 part number. I sure wasn't doubting the company had already made a zillion for about every machine base out there. Just the opposite

Is possible to purchase the hook plate covers already drilled eh?, but thats not to tough to do but again im sure these type items could be in the catalogs somewhere. This could be the very reason to give you a call, cutting to the real need in short order.

thanks for the tips n pics

Floyd

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

1 hour ago, brmax said:

Thats a great tip Gregg, the tac number i gave was used on a couple machines as the turn downs were ground off and so only used the screws for stabilizing. 

When i first seen mine i thought it may be for a 111 actual machine base with its number, and in that its possible as your photo showing a 563 part number. I sure wasn't doubting the company had already made a zillion for about every machine base out there. Just the opposite

Is possible to purchase the hook plate covers already drilled eh?, but thats not to tough to do but again im sure these type items could be in the catalogs somewhere. This could be the very reason to give you a call, cutting to the real need in short order.

thanks for the tips n pics

Floyd

Thanks for the kind words, I love to share information like this, and hope it helps.