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One has to wonder what the support will be like........

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12 minutes ago, Darren Brosowski said:

One has to wonder what the support will be like........

I would pre-order some spare bearings and other cranks that Boss had problems with. I'm thinking that because they are using a cast iron frame and steel internals, operational and seasonal problems might be greatly reduced from what Boss owners experienced with aluminum frame models. Time will tell.

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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HI Everyone, I understand from Cowboy Head Office that the machine is very different from the Boss, it incorporates Cowboy CB4500 and Cowboy CB205-370 parts.

I have found in the past that Cowboy have always stepped up to what was required, they will test this machine and it wont be available until they are satisfied.   We are Cowboy Leather Machines in Australia and previously if we asked Cowboy HO to source a machine for us and they have thought it not of sufficiently high quality they have advised that they would not be able to supply it, so I have great confidence in them.

Here in Australia we have the Tippmann being supplied by Tandy, we work amicably with them and so have decided not to run the Outlaw, instead we have put forward our CB3200 handcrank, this machine has compound feed, reverse and we supply it with a special foot and plate pack as well as a roller guide, we feel it is a fantastic alternative and still portable enough to take to shows.  We believe it to be a superior machine.

However, I understand that in the States lots of research has been undertaken on behalf of the Outlaw machine and that Cowboy in the USA are very excited about it and I believe it is going to be a great success for them.  best regards Steve Bonnett, Cowboy Leather Machines... Australia.

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Ah, this is the Cowboy machine!!!

In that case the product support will be as good as it gets.

 

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the video is now gone.  I hope it IS different than the boss.  The evil empire tried to come out with a clone (the Stitch Bastard). they even had it in their catalog before being sued by Tippmann for patent infringement and won.

"Out of my mind.....back in 5 minutes"

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On 4/17/2017 at 10:54 AM, Wizcrafts said:

I would pre-order some spare bearings and other cranks that Boss had problems with. I'm thinking that because they are using a cast iron frame and steel internals, operational and seasonal problems might be greatly reduced from what Boss owners experienced with aluminum frame models. Time will tell.

I have always felt that some things should NOT be made of aluminum !!  It is not strong enough for some applications.

 

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8 hours ago, Cascabel said:

I have always felt that some things should NOT be made of aluminum !!  It is not strong enough for some applications.

 

Kubota makes tractor rear ends (traditionally made of cast iron) out of aluminum.  Boeing makes airplanes out of aluminum.  Rock climbers trust their lives to aluminum all the time...

The design needs to account for the characteristics of the material it's to be made of.

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41 minutes ago, JimTimber said:

Kubota makes tractor rear ends (traditionally made of cast iron) out of aluminum.  Boeing makes airplanes out of aluminum.  Rock climbers trust their lives to aluminum all the time...

The design needs to account for the characteristics of the material it's to be made of.

Thanks, Jim Timber, . . . I have not the slightest inkling of the reason for the Tippmann Boss bashing I run across every now and then.  My machine is one of their aluminum machines, . . . been running it over 10 years, . . . and like any thing else, . . . I've had a couple of issues.  Nothing that could not be fixed, . . . and fixed darn quick, . . . by very competent people.

Tippmann is in my opinion, . . . based on 10 years of service, . . . one of the VERY BEST companies I've ever had to deal with.  The equipment is excellent, . . . warranty is good, . . . service is great, . . . and they have bent over backwards to help me the few times I've needed it.

My personal opinion is most likely the biggest detractors of the Boss, . . . probably would find fault with a ten pound brick of gold, . . . have very little mechanical ability, . . . and just like to gripe to hear their heads roar.

Rant off.

May God bless,

Dwight

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If you can read, . . . thank a teacher.

If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran.

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