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I now own a Tippman Boss, and the main reasons for buying it, as have already been mentioned, are the small footprint, and the sewing thickness.   The fact that I can easily take it outside on a sunny day also wins brownie points.

Yes, I could have bought an electric powered machine, but I do not have the space, and the majority of machines available in the UK, just won't look at 3/4" leather, without a hefty price tag.

As I have said, space is at a premium, and when I bought the Boss, it was with the understanding that it wouldn't be getting a massive amount of use.   So filling my little workshop with a gallumpin' great expensive monster which might only be used once a week, could not be justified.   

In a workshop measuring 3 metres by just over 2 metres, anything that saves me floorspace is worth every penny to me.

 

 

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1 hour ago, LumpenDoodle2 said:

I now own a Tippman Boss, and the main reasons for buying it, as have already been mentioned, are the small footprint, and the sewing thickness.   The fact that I can easily take it outside on a sunny day also wins brownie points.

Yes, I could have bought an electric powered machine, but I do not have the space, and the majority of machines available in the UK, just won't look at 3/4" leather, without a hefty price tag.

As I have said, space is at a premium, and when I bought the Boss, it was with the understanding that it wouldn't be getting a massive amount of use.   So filling my little workshop with a gallumpin' great expensive monster which might only be used once a week, could not be justified.   

In a workshop measuring 3 metres by just over 2 metres, anything that saves me floorspace is worth every penny to me.

 

That's some very salient points on the Boss. I'd be tempted to get one myself if it weren't for having a Pearson #6 next to my bench. It'll do 3/4" all day and 9/10" if I ask it very nicely. I'm very fortunate to have the space for some beautiful old iron. Need to get rid of the flatbed 45K soon though, it takes too much houseroom. (It'll do 1/2" if anyone is interested.)

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I brought a Tippmann Boss from a site called Pre loved about 5 years ago always wanted one but at the time hard to get in UK .

Tandy used to have them then stopped selling them now sell ing again have to say would not pay that sort of money for one .

Got mine for less than half that they sell them for do not use it much just like to hand stitch most of my work is horse riding tack

but recovering rubber rein grips can be time consuming  so helpful for that.

Yes they can be a little funny at times but a good machine to learn on also have a singer 46K in storage space also tight in my workshop 

when first got that machine scared the hell out of me but since using Boss and learning on it not so daunting now.

In other words yes expensive but good at what can do and easy to use once you work it out yes can be pain at times but learn as you go.

hope this helps  

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Yes its a year old post but just read it been doing biker type lether work for 50 years at rallys and biker events I vend out of a 44 ft trailer that is wall to wall with parts and leather goods and I do have a electric sewing monster inside for sewing patches on and light leather repairs (if electric is available) but by far my tippman boss it the best buy I've made and a crowd pleaser because I set it up outside on its cobbler bench and bikers gather around to watch me make saddle bags and tool bags

My tippman boss have generated more money then any electric machine ever could because as soon as i make a item someone watching me will buy it and of course the small foot print and manual operation is ideal for my use

Now that I've retired from the business world I still use it in my home its ideal for a old slower man to use almost all my leather is in the 8-10 oz some 12-13 oz with elk hide to use as a linner in gun holsters very seldom do I sew light weight leather

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Greetings! I’m just now taking a look at the Tippman Boss. I’m taking up leatherwork as my retirement hobby so I’ve not been at it long. Hand-stitching is a chore for me due to hand issues, but don’t want to go electric. Tandy has the Cowboy Outlaw on sale and in doing research I find the Tippman Boss, so I’m on the fence on which way to go. There was good discussing here, a year ago. What would folks say today? Any further comments, Boss, or Outlaw?

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I really cannot comment on the Outlaw . . . but I've had a Tipmann Boss for over 15 years . . . and it has pretty much done all I ever wanted it to do.

I can also make another comment . . . which pertains easier to me because of location . . . when I've had a problem with it (twice) . . . I laid it in the passenger seat . . . and two hours later, I'm standing behind Ben . . . he is fixing the problem . . . and I'm back on my way.

Your location will not work for that . . . but they are solid on fixing any problems that arise.

The worst problem I've ever had with it . . . it does not like to go around circular corners . . . never figured out why . . . it just doesn't . . . and sometimes the back side of the stitching is a bit less than optimal.  It's great for holsters . . . dog collars . . . knife sheaths . . . but belts can be a pain if you have a shoulder problem.  

Put it to prayer . . . let the Lord help you with the decision . . . that actually is my best piece of advice.  People ask me if the Lord is my steering wheel or my life preserver . . .  I claim He is my GPS . . . gives me the directions before I get there.

May God bless,

Dwight

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I’m sure I have posted the pros n cons of the The Boss before but in a nutshell - 

pros - really small footprint, it’s a hardy class 7 system so big thread and needle for heavy work.  Portable since it’s so small.  

 

cons - you need to crank with one arm, and you need to crank consistently the same way.  If you get lazy cranking you may skip a stitch.  Think about cranking 500 times for a belt or bag strap stitch line - my arm is already tired.  Other cons are small throat depth, and the last is the cost, it’s pricy.  
 

Spend the extra money and get a Cowboy 4500, you will not regret it.  
 

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6 hours ago, Dwight said:

I really cannot comment on the Outlaw . . . but I've had a Tipmann Boss for over 15 years . . . and it has pretty much done all I ever wanted it to do.

I can also make another comment . . . which pertains easier to me because of location . . . when I've had a problem with it (twice) . . . I laid it in the passenger seat . . . and two hours later, I'm standing behind Ben . . . he is fixing the problem . . . and I'm back on my way.

Your location will not work for that . . . but they are solid on fixing any problems that arise.

The worst problem I've ever had with it . . . it does not like to go around circular corners . . . never figured out why . . . it just doesn't . . . and sometimes the back side of the stitching is a bit less than optimal.  It's great for holsters . . . dog collars . . . knife sheaths . . . but belts can be a pain if you have a shoulder problem.  

Put it to prayer . . . let the Lord help you with the decision . . . that actually is my best piece of advice.  People ask me if the Lord is my steering wheel or my life preserver . . .  I claim He is my GPS . . . gives me the directions before I get there.

May God bless,

Dwight

Thank you Dwight. I'm serious on continuing my leatherwork, I have a work area just for leather, and enough leather to do several project, the problem remains to be the hands, which I leave to His hands. 

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6 hours ago, Yetibelle said:

I’m sure I have posted the pros n cons of the The Boss before but in a nutshell - 

pros - really small footprint, it’s a hardy class 7 system so big thread and needle for heavy work.  Portable since it’s so small.  

 

cons - you need to crank with one arm, and you need to crank consistently the same way.  If you get lazy cranking you may skip a stitch.  Think about cranking 500 times for a belt or bag strap stitch line - my arm is already tired.  Other cons are small throat depth, and the last is the cost, it’s pricy.  
 

Spend the extra money and get a Cowboy 4500, you will not regret it.  
 

Thank you Yetibelle for your response. Your response makes me want to step up the game and look into the CB4500 or comparable machine. I'm leaning on doing it by "hand", but my hands are recommending other ways at this point. I struggled at doing hand-stitching for a small knife sheath. But at this juncture, it is the creation, and time to do many, verses one at a snails pace. I've got several ideas in the head that need to come out...

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