Singer 45k1 Restoration Decals

[jimi]

Hi Tony, here is some pictures of the decals you asked about.

[Parfektionisto]

9 hours ago, jimi said:

Hi Tony, here is some pictures of the decals you asked about.

Hi Jimi, 

That means the 45k1 originally did have the acanthus floral motifs, do you think 29k or 31k floral motifs will work? Thank you for the pics. 

Tony

[Constabulary]

I´m not sure but I don´t think there were 45K with crackle coating AND floral decals - though not 100% sure. If I were you I wound not use the floral decals but thats my personal choice. Not sure how well these large decals will apply to a crackle coating.

However - I think you can use 29K / 31K decals. I don´t think Singer had many decal variants for their industrial machines back then maybe they had minor difference over the decades but I think basically they were all pretty much the same.

Other 45K examples w. floral decals:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SINGER-45-K-37-LEATHER-SEWING-MACHINE-/231919645088

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Architectural-Singer-45k-Sewing-Machine-Can-Deliver-/152515176398

[Parfektionisto]

48 minutes ago, Constabulary said:

I´m not sure but I don´t think there were 45K with crackle coating AND floral decals - though not 100% sure. If I were you I wound not use the floral decals but thats my personal choice. Not sure how well these large decals will apply to a crackle coating.

However - I think you can use 29K / 31K decals. I don´t think Singer had many decal variants for their industrial machines back then maybe they had minor difference over the decades but I think basically they were all pretty much the same.

Other 45K examples w. floral decals:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SINGER-45-K-37-LEATHER-SEWING-MACHINE-/231919645088

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Architectural-Singer-45k-Sewing-Machine-Can-Deliver-/152515176398

Hi Constabulary,

Thanks for the input on this, I know both 31k and 29k  decals are the closest and available decals that I can use on my 45k1, the only difference is probably the size as you mentioned the 31k seems quite bold. I was thinking of custom printing the decals locally, it's faster that way and probably cheaper too. LW member Evo160k sent me a copy of the decals he bought from you, so that I could trace it, I'm really grateful to him, and I also found out I could copy the image from keeler decals on eBay too. 

I didn't know 45k came in crinkle finish until Jimi sent me a pic of 45k100 in original crinkle finish. I think crinkle finish only came in the 50s, and you are right it's without the floral motifs. I'm not sure if the floral motifs will fit well on the crinkle finish, but I'm tempted to try it. Below is a link or the crinkle finish 45k100 posted by Jimi. 

Tony

http://needlebar.org/cm/displayimage.php?pid=6337

[Parfektionisto]

On 24/09/2017 at 3:54 PM, Constabulary said:

I´m not sure but I don´t think there were 45K with crackle coating AND floral decals - though not 100% sure. If I were you I wound not use the floral decals but thats my personal choice. Not sure how well these large decals will apply to a crackle coating.

However - I think you can use 29K / 31K decals. I don´t think Singer had many decal variants for their industrial machines back then maybe they had minor difference over the decades but I think basically they were all pretty much the same.

Other 45K examples w. floral decals:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SINGER-45-K-37-LEATHER-SEWING-MACHINE-/231919645088

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Architectural-Singer-45k-Sewing-Machine-Can-Deliver-/152515176398

Hi Constabulary,

I tried tracing the decals you sold the Evo160K and keeler's decal and I found out the typeface is different, as your decals is an original vintage piece, I will use yours instead of keeler's. Now I need to complete my tracing then I will sent it to print as decals. 

Tony

[Constabulary]

Hi Tony, well reproductions are reproduction - nothing is as good as the original. I don´t dare using my vintage original decals. Maybe one day when I found the "one and only" Singer machines I may try applying them but most likely I won´t. Not many original decals have survived I think. But when your decals turn out nice I´m sure some folks here would be interested if they are affordable.

[Parfektionisto]

On 28/09/2017 at 3:25 PM, Constabulary said:

Hi Tony, well reproductions are reproduction - nothing is as good as the original. I don´t dare using my vintage original decals. Maybe one day when I found the "one and only" Singer machines I may try applying them but most likely I won´t. Not many original decals have survived I think. But when your decals turn out nice I´m sure some folks here would be interested if they are affordable.

Hi Constabulary,

Just done with the tracing from your original decal, although the original decal condition is not very good but I tried my best to trace as close as possible. The problem with keeler's decal is the proportion of the typeface is off, which I guess he might have created it base on existing fonts as there isn't any real reference around. Thanks to your original decals which makes the restoration work possible and a great help to those who wants to restore their machine as close to the original as possible.  

Most of the old singer decals were in gold colours, but yours is in silver colour, very rare, any idea which old singer models used silver colour decals?

Tony

[Parfektionisto]

Another interesting find on the floral motifs decals. I realise there are differences in the floral motifs used on the 45k1, see the pics I have attached for the differences, and Keeler's floral decals is also slightly different. 

The first 3 pics are from original 45k1, 2nd pic is from Jimi, and the 4th pic is Keeler's decal for 31k.

Tony

[Constabulary]

my original decal are actually gold foil - I once applied one to a cast iron table just for testing them - did not turn out very well. Thats why I never used them. When the right machines turn up and will maybe try again.

[dikman]

Don't know about these decals, Constabulary, but I do know that the decals used in plastic model kits can deteriorate with age and fall apart when applied! (And I suspect yours may be much older than model kits!).