Members Stetson912 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Members Report Posted December 24, 2017 Soo silly me... I put the Dee in the wrong spot. Supposed to go on the belly end haha. Guess I'm fixing that in a few hours haha. Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted December 24, 2017 Members Report Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) Yup, supposed to look like this: Another problem with harnesses: they don't give you very much control over the end that bites! Of course, in this photo, that's the whole point of using a harness... Edited December 24, 2017 by Sheilajeanne Quote
Members Stetson912 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Members Report Posted December 24, 2017 All fixed hehe Quote
Members lostcaggy Posted December 24, 2017 Members Report Posted December 24, 2017 Maybe research prong collars first and see why they are so disapproved of. Modern training practices aren't fear based. Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted December 24, 2017 Members Report Posted December 24, 2017 I'ts all in how the collar is used. What's even crueler is having your dog totally out of control, and attacking another dog, then having to be put down. Or pulling its owner off its feet, causing broken bones, then running out into traffic and getting hit by a car. I know people who have had all of these things happen to them. I have been in the dog business a long, long time. But I don't have little lap dogs that cringe if you raise your voice to them. I have big, strong dogs that can be too much for the average person to handle on a flat collar. Yes, there are haltis, and Gentle Leaders, but some dogs can't stand those - the just keep fighting them until they are exhausted. I adopted a 85 lb. male GSD that had NEVER been leashed trained. He was far too strong for me to have been able to control using a regular collar, so I used the prong on him until he understood what I expected of him. The prongs are blunt, and only come into play when the dog pulls. They do not hurt the neck. After about a month using the prong, he was walking on a totally loose leash, and I was able to transition him to a flat collar. It's a tool, and any good dog trainer has more than one tool in their toolbox. What works for one dog may be a total flop with another. This dog was not trained using fear. I rescued him from life on the end of an 8 ft. chain, and an owner who said he didn't want him and was going to shoot him. He became my hearing ear service dog. Quote
bikermutt07 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 20 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said: I'ts all in how the collar is used. What's even crueler is having your dog totally out of control, and attacking another dog, then having to be put down. Or pulling its owner off its feet, causing broken bones, then running out into traffic and getting hit by a car. I know people who have had all of these things happen to them. I have been in the dog business a long, long time. But I don't have little lap dogs that cringe if you raise your voice to them. I have big, strong dogs that can be too much for the average person to handle on a flat collar. Yes, there are haltis, and Gentle Leaders, but some dogs can't stand those - the just keep fighting them until they are exhausted. I adopted a 85 lb. male GSD that had NEVER been leashed trained. He was far too strong for me to have been able to control using a regular collar, so I used the prong on him until he understood what I expected of him. The prongs are blunt, and only come into play when the dog pulls. They do not hurt the neck. After about a month using the prong, he was walking on a totally loose leash, and I was able to transition him to a flat collar. It's a tool, and any good dog trainer has more than one tool in their toolbox. What works for one dog may be a total flop with another. This dog was not trained using fear. I rescued him from life on the end of an 8 ft. chain, and an owner who said he didn't want him and was going to shoot him. He became my hearing ear service dog. That's a great story. And even though he is a bred dog, my favorite part is him being a rescue dog. Our family is not into bred dogs, but pound rescues. No judgement, just expressing my opinion. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Sheilajeanne Posted December 25, 2017 Members Report Posted December 25, 2017 You can read his full story here: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.read?post=862489-its-time&p=2#862507 You might want to get the tissues out... Still miss him something awful! Quote
Members SheltathaLore Posted December 25, 2017 Members Report Posted December 25, 2017 There's also a difference between discipline that's intended to hurt and scare, and simply getting the dog's attention via a restrained but unusual stimulus. Five minutes with a squirt bottle full of vinegar-water was enough to convince my new rescue Prince that bullying his big sister Sophie wasn't acceptable behavior - which saved all of us a lot of aggravation and stress. Quote
Members Stetson912 Posted December 26, 2017 Author Members Report Posted December 26, 2017 So here is bo. A little long on the top. But I can fix that. He already ripped the Dee out so I will be replacing the top strap. Any thoughts on how I can reinforce that Dee at the back? Quote
Members SheltathaLore Posted December 27, 2017 Members Report Posted December 27, 2017 What a cutie!! Quote
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