Rossr Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Well apparently two was not enough so I made another one. This one I am going to see about donating for a auction. If any of you know the symbols on the front you can guess what for... Anyway, Veg tan leather, carved and did some simple quilting on it. The middle piece is oil tan this time just to mix it up. I sewed it on the Juki-lu563...still learning but getting better. Inside lined with a waxed pig suede and veg tan for the flaps. Starting to get a real process down on these. May have to consider making some for sale at some point. Constructive criticism always welcome Ross https://www.facebook.com/EinhornLLC/videos/1028263387312029/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YinTx Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Your tooling is looking incredible. really small details in there and came out perfectly. I'd say you could be selling these any time. YinTx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brown64 Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Looks really good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dun Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Dang rossr these are getting better and better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 3, 2018 8 hours ago, YinTx said: Your tooling is looking incredible. really small details in there and came out perfectly. I'd say you could be selling these any time. YinTx Some very kind words, Now would you like me to highlight what I thought were my mistakes LOL. Overall I was pretty happy with this one and knew it would be a challenge the rope part of the bead necklace took some time but looked ok in my opinion. 7 hours ago, Brown64 said: Looks really good! Thanks Sir 5 hours ago, Dun said: Dang rossr these are getting better and better Appreciate that Dun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikermutt07 Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Really great job, rossr. What color did you use one the outside veg? It looks perfectly applied. Process? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwican Report post Posted February 3, 2018 That is some sweet work man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, bikermutt07 said: Really great job, rossr. What color did you use one the outside veg? It looks perfectly applied. Process? Hey Mutt, That is Golden Brown Pro Dye by Fiebings. I only use the pro dyes from fieblings at this point. For me its been the easiest to use and gives the most consistent result. I just wiped it on circular pattern with a hunk of sheep wool. Finished with Tan kote same think wiped on in circular fashion Kind word btw Thank you 46 minutes ago, kiwican said: That is some sweet work man! Thank you sir Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikermutt07 Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Thanks, that's what I use. Did you reduce it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 3, 2018 4 hours ago, bikermutt07 said: Thanks, that's what I use. Did you reduce it? Nope that was straight out of the bottle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikermutt07 Report post Posted February 3, 2018 Cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texson Report post Posted February 4, 2018 Well done!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Texson said: Well done!! Appreciate that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheilajeanne Report post Posted August 27, 2018 I have a question for those of you who do notebooks and padfolios. When you are carving and/or stamping the front cover of the project, do you have to wet the WHOLE THING (including the back cover) to prevent water stains? Or can you get away with just wetting the front? This sort of project is on my to-do list, so enquiring minds want to know! I'd like to do both a notebook sized and a full sized (8 1/2 x 11) padfolio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ScoobyNewbie Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Oh, good! Somebody I can ask! I’ve been told that the fieblings oil dye fades. Is this true, or am I mixing up the oil with the alcohol dyes? Or are they both pretty stable? What are the benefits to oil, alchohol and water based dyes? And the problems? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted August 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said: I have a question for those of you who do notebooks and padfolios. When you are carving and/or stamping the front cover of the project, do you have to wet the WHOLE THING (including the back cover) to prevent water stains? Or can you get away with just wetting the front? This sort of project is on my to-do list, so enquiring minds want to know! I'd like to do both a notebook sized and a full sized (8 1/2 x 11) padfolio. Sheila This is a interesting question. I have been trying to think what I do. It seems to me I usually just do the part I am carving. Now in the case of this padfolio there are separate front and back pieces so it isn't as much of a concern. I have also been using a spray bottle as of late and spray the whole front when I do it. I know there are lots of ways to case leather and seems everyone has their favorite. But for me the currently I like the spray bottle. I recently did a couple 5x8 padfolios. Both had one piece of leather folded over. Both I carved the front and only dampened the front when carving. I did not notice any water marks from doing that. I then did the back separately and did some stamping on the back and again didn't notice any water marks. One thing I learned a while ago was to let the piece dry completely before I dyed them. In the past I have had issues when I rushed to dye them wet. I use only the Fieblings pro dyes cause I seem to get the best results from them. As always your mileage may vary but these are my thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted August 28, 2018 11 hours ago, ScoobyNewbie said: Oh, good! Somebody I can ask! I’ve been told that the fieblings oil dye fades. Is this true, or am I mixing up the oil with the alcohol dyes? Or are they both pretty stable? What are the benefits to oil, alchohol and water based dyes? And the problems? Scooby I have always been confused by this .....that being said I haven't done a lot of research to understand better. I have come to use the fiebings pro dyes. I seem to get the best results for me anyway. I havent had any fading issues in my opinion from fiebings pro dye, or at least no complaints. There is a weaver leather supply video about dyes. I have no connection to weaver just saw the video. Also I am under the impression Fiebings pro dye is alcohol based see here: https://www.fiebing.com/shop/?item=42705. Fiebings used to be called Pro oil dye, but all you see now is pro dye....so not sure if there was a change or what occurred. Ross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheilajeanne Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Thanks, Rossr! Good information! What I've found in the past is wetting the leather too many times dries it out, and I was worrying about this happening with a larger project like the 8 1/2 x 10 padfolio. I COULD eliminate the problem by having separate pieces for the front and back, but I really would prefer to make it out of one piece of leather, as the spine is the part of the padfolio that gets the most wear and tear, and is usually where it will eventually split and fall apart. So, planning on one piece of leather for the cover! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted August 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Sheilajeanne said: Thanks, Rossr! Good information! What I've found in the past is wetting the leather too many times dries it out, and I was worrying about this happening with a larger project like the 8 1/2 x 10 padfolio. I COULD eliminate the problem by having separate pieces for the front and back, but I really would prefer to make it out of one piece of leather, as the spine is the part of the padfolio that gets the most wear and tear, and is usually where it will eventually split and fall apart. So, planning on one piece of leather for the cover! So when you dye it and then add a finish does that help with the dryness? I havent had a major issue here but I dont do lots so might just be I havent noticed! https://dgsaddlery.com/properly-casing-leather/ I did a quick search and found a blog post on casing(Again I have no connection to Dgsaddlery. seemed to have some good info...and of course I know there is tons of info on search here. Would love to see your padfolio when you finish it! Ross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisash Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Someone posted in a earlier post to use as close to distilled water to avoid water marks or at least reduce them from chemicals in tap water Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheilajeanne Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Rossr, I had to treat the leather with neatsfoot oil. That darkened it SO much that when I tried to dye the design I'd tooled, the dye barely showed up. This was when I tried the casing method of wetting the leather in the sink, then wrapping it in plastic and putting it in the fridge until i was ready to work on it. Have since gone back to casing by dampening with a sponge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, chrisash said: Someone posted in a earlier post to use as close to distilled water to avoid water marks or at least reduce them from chemicals in tap water This is a very good point. I dont think of this much as I live in the country and have well water. but city water or any treated water may make a large difference I would imagine R Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Sheilajeanne said: Rossr, I had to treat the leather with neatsfoot oil. That darkened it SO much that when I tried to dye the design I'd tooled, the dye barely showed up. This was when I tried the casing method of wetting the leather in the sink, then wrapping it in plastic and putting it in the fridge until i was ready to work on it. Have since gone back to casing by dampening with a sponge. I dont use neats foot much for I found the same thing. I was always under the impression it was dye first then do the finish like neats foot oil or whatever.....I used pecards leather dressing a lot and have been happy with it. Doesnt seem to darken the leather too much and seems to keep it supple. I can see where doing the oil first would be hard to dye after for sure Ross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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