Members ZigZag Posted February 23, 2018 Members Report Posted February 23, 2018 I’ve heard much talk about standard three strand twisted thread being the only thread to use in a 411 or similar, but I thought I would share my experience with machine sewing with braided thread. i have tried both tiger 44 coated and braided Kevlar fishing line and both have proved to be very successful. I have tried 0.6mm and 0.8mm, both work well and give a great stitch consistently. anyone else tried braided? Quote Typical TSC441, Juki 1508, Singer 201, Singer 29k, Sailrite LSZ, Pfaff 238, Pfaff 335, Adler 98, Adler 166
Members Jesleright Posted February 23, 2018 Members Report Posted February 23, 2018 Sounds like an interesting experiment. Does the coated thread leave wax build-up in the machine? Quote May the Grace and Love of our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ, the Son of God, be with you. Acts 4:12Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."NKJV Guess who the first leather worker is! Read Genesis chapter 3, verse 21 ;-)
alpha2 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Posted February 24, 2018 And, how would it compare to a lube pot? Quote So much leather...so little time.
Members ZigZag Posted February 24, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 24, 2018 The Ritza 44 is silicone coated polyester and is silky smooth. I certainly wouldn’t even attempt to put waxed thread through the machine. The braided fishing line has a Kevlar core so is incredibly strong. Not quite as slippery as the Ritza 44 which is specifically designed as a machine thread. heres a link to where I buy it from. http://abbeyengland.com/Store/CategoryID/432/List/0/Level/a/ProductID/68931 Quote Typical TSC441, Juki 1508, Singer 201, Singer 29k, Sailrite LSZ, Pfaff 238, Pfaff 335, Adler 98, Adler 166
Members Mattsbagger Posted February 24, 2018 Members Report Posted February 24, 2018 Weaver also sells Ritza machine thread I believe. Quote
Members Joon1911 Posted March 13, 2018 Members Report Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Zigzag, this is an intriguing idea. Can you post some pics? I’ve found I have to be careful of how I’m hand sewing with the Ritza otherwise the flat braid lay of the thread affects the overall “neatness” of the stitches. I’d imagine this would be exacerbated by running thru a sewing machine. Edited March 13, 2018 by Joon1911 Quote "Make every product better than its ever been done before. Make the parts you cannot see as well as the parts you can see. Use only the best materials, even for the most everyday items. Give the same attention to the smallest detail as you do to the largest. Design every item you make to last forever." -Shaker Philosophy of Furniture Making
Members Matt S Posted March 14, 2018 Members Report Posted March 14, 2018 Hi @ZigZag, I've tried the two braided polyesters I have on hand in machines, Tiger 1.4mm and a similar size un-named polyester braid that is slightly rounder, looser braid and entirely dry. I had better success with the Ritza. What machine are you running these braids through, if I may ask? Quote
Members ZigZag Posted March 15, 2018 Author Members Report Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 11:35 PM, Joon1911 said: Zigzag, this is an intriguing idea. Can you post some pics? I’ve found I have to be careful of how I’m hand sewing with the Ritza otherwise the flat braid lay of the thread affects the overall “neatness” of the stitches. I’d imagine this would be exacerbated by running thru a sewing machine. I'd be more than happy to show some pics. I'm traveling abroad on business at the moment so will get to this in around 10 days. Cheers Nick Quote Typical TSC441, Juki 1508, Singer 201, Singer 29k, Sailrite LSZ, Pfaff 238, Pfaff 335, Adler 98, Adler 166
Members ZigZag Posted March 15, 2018 Author Members Report Posted March 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Matt S said: Hi @ZigZag, I've tried the two braided polyesters I have on hand in machines, Tiger 1.4mm and a similar size un-named polyester braid that is slightly rounder, looser braid and entirely dry. I had better success with the Ritza. What machine are you running these braids through, if I may ask? Hi Matt, i'm using a 441 clone, this one is made by Typical, pretty much the only one available in UK. I'm very pleased with it. Quality is excellent and had no problems with it so far. Quote Typical TSC441, Juki 1508, Singer 201, Singer 29k, Sailrite LSZ, Pfaff 238, Pfaff 335, Adler 98, Adler 166
Members Matt S Posted March 15, 2018 Members Report Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, ZigZag said: Hi Matt, i'm using a 441 clone, this one is made by Typical, pretty much the only one available in UK. I'm very pleased with it. Quality is excellent and had no problems with it so far. Thanks Zigzag. May I ask how much it was? DCR wanted £3800+VAT for a 441. Quote
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