Do you consider yourself an artist?

[Rolandranch]

Cool thread. I have artistic skills but I'm not an artist. I'm more of a "wanna-be-an-artist". Who knows... I'm still young... I have some time to get good and become famous!!! Get my autograph while it's cheap!!!  

[BDAZ]

1 hour ago, Rolandranch said:

Cool thread. I have artistic skills but I'm not an artist. I'm more of a "wanna-be-an-artist". Who knows... I'm still young... I have some time to get good and become famous!!! Get my autograph while it's cheap!!!  

Fame is overrated. Most artists don't become famous until they are dead. Where in Tucson are you?

 

Bob

[Rolandranch]

Hi Bob,

I agree. And the famous ones are famous because they committed suicide... well... sometimes.

I live in the Drexel Heights area. 

[BDAZ]

 A lot of it has to do with the unavailability of more work from the artist. Most of the music artists you refer to (I worked for Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix in the 60s) didn't commit suicide, they OD'd, victims of their lifestyle. The few that have hung in there like Jager, deserve it.

Bob

[Retswerb]

On 5/19/2018 at 7:44 AM, BDAZ said:

Keen was an illustrator with a formula that found a market, Rembrandt was an artist and his vision is still unique and valid hundreds of years later.

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No, what I am saying is that Keen is NOT art, it's illustration, craft, which was designed to sell.

I guess this is where I’ll agree to disagree. I tend to think those lines are a lot more blurred than you’re making them out to be, with much crossover.

Thanks for the conversation! 

[BDAZ]

2 hours ago, Retswerb said:

I guess this is where I’ll agree to disagree. I tend to think those lines are a lot more blurred than you’re making them out to be, with much crossover.

Thanks for the conversation! 

Well maybe a more palatable stance is that one is art and one is Fine Art. Anyone who would put a Keen in the same plane as Rembrandt is either  ignorant or on drugs...really good drugs!

Bob

[Grumpymann]

I think of myself as a craftsman. What I do with leather is a skill. And skills can be taught and learned by anyone (To a greater and or lesser degree). 

Ah but art. The mind and talent of an artist is a thing that has been hashed and rehashed form the start of language itself. But i see it as a form of magic, alchemy the ability bring forth something that previously was not into being through the force of will. My uncle was a painter and he was good. But Klempt was an artist. That special ... something that one in a million have. 

If I could bring into being what is in my head I would be an artist. And one day may be. But for now I'm a craftsman. And that's no small thing.

That is not to say there not artist in leather work. There indeed are but I am not one.

Are you?

If you think you are then you are. At least as far as I figure it.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Grumpymann
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[Grumpymann]

1 minute ago, Grumpymann said:

I think of myself as a craftsman. What I do with leather is a skill. And skills can be taught and learned by anyone (To a greater and or lesser degree). 

Ah but art. The mind and talent of an artist is a thing that has been hashed and rehashed form the start of language itself. But i see it as a form of magic, alchemy the ability bring forth something that previously was not into being through the force of will. My uncle was a painter and he was good. But Klempt was an artist. That special ... something that one in a million have. 

If I could bring into being what is in my head I would be an artist. And one day may be. But for now I'm a craftsman. And that's no small thing.

That is not to say there not artist in leather work. There indeed are but I am not one.

Are you?

If you think you are then you are. At least as far as I figure it.

 

[Studio-N]

On 5/6/2018 at 10:53 AM, immiketoo said:

Not me.  People who create art are artists.  I recreate art on leather.  More of a craftsman, really.  

I like this answer. I'm certainly creative. I reproduce and combine things in different ways to give my work a decorative flare. but that to me is just something that adds to my craft and value of the item.  cheers!