RockyAussie Report post Posted June 24, 2018 On 21/06/2018 at 6:26 AM, Clintock said: @RockyAussie don't take what I said to heart. Reading back over it looked like it may have been a smart ass remark. It was all in good humor. Hide's not that thin and I didn't think any thing said was but humour anyway. If I ever say anything that seems not right I would WAY prefer they say so cause I could learn something new myself. I went and got a new set of fish scales and that was a waste of $10.00 bucks, they would not show any thing under a pound of pull.Got me thinker workin and how I could hammer this problem out - See the pictures 1st pic - dont bother with these scales I set about getting the tensions on my machine finely balanced first. I started with some quite firm veg at 3+mm (8oz) and set up with 20m (138) thread top and bottom and a Schmetz NM:160 Size 23 794 LR needle. Note not knots to the top No knots under I then went straight over to a 1.4mm(3 1/2oz) garment leather. No knots on top No knots on bottom I then went straight over to the first piece and doubled it up. Still no adjustments made. Top looks good Bottom looks good Now I set about getting some way of measuring these tensions. The results in a bit of a nutshell is the bobbin was just over 1pound if hung as shown and the top 3 pound hung as shown. Note: these setting are more ideal if doing wallets or purses, handbags etc. For the bobbin tension I ran the thread up to the thread guide above and GENTLY allowed the weight down. The hammer will hold just. I will post more soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted June 24, 2018 Next I got the top tension which comes out just over 3 pounds (1pound and 2 pound hammers) .I hung them down over the smooth area being careful to not let the thread get caught in the crack. For those that would like to see metric grams as against ounces I am showing pictures of both. The 2 hammers together. I intend to get another set of digital scales to try out like in this ebay listing https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WH-A05L-LCD-Portable-Digital-Electronic-Scale-10-45kg-10g-for-Fishing-Luggage-TJ/172412860830?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 to hopefully provide some more references on other thicknesses and machines types. If this is likely to be of interest please let me know here and I will start this off in a separate dedicated post. You can follow me also if you would like to be advised of any updates to this. Brian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintock Report post Posted June 24, 2018 @RockyAussie 3 pounds is more like it. Or more on my machine. Plan on getting some scales just outta curiosity. And I been catching some pretty good size sun perch lately too. So win both ways. Thanks for the reference. My tension might be a "tad" over. Seriously will cut your finger when pulling slack if not held right. Now let's talk about them hammers. You got a bit of redneck in your blood? That's something we'd do down here in the south Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Clintock said: @RockyAussie 3 pounds is more like it. Or more on my machine. Plan on getting some scales just outta curiosity. And I been catching some pretty good size sun perch lately too. So win both ways. Thanks for the reference. My tension might be a "tad" over. Seriously will cut your finger when pulling slack if not held right. Now let's talk about them hammers. You got a bit of redneck in your blood? That's something we'd do down here in the south WAY down south here in Oz. I'll let ya know when I get them fancy scales in and try and do a more professional lookin post of sorts. Damn now I'm a red face as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintock Report post Posted June 24, 2018 Whatever works! Always more n one way to skin a cat! I'm checking eBay now. Found one but not very good reviews. And my nephew wants his fish weighed right. I put a fish in a bag and threw it on bathroom scales. He said "that ain't the way the pros do it". Where these kids come up with stuff like that??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted June 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Clintock said: Where these kids come up with stuff like that??? Youtube, of course, where else? Rocky, you should have weighed the hammers standing upright on the scales, that way gravity can act in line with the handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted June 25, 2018 14 hours ago, dikman said: Youtube, of course, where else? Rocky, you should have weighed the hammers standing upright on the scales, that way gravity can act in line with the handle. Ahaa , you mean the angle of the dangle and a bit of the Newton stuff. Most perplexing. Interest looks low so to the backburner for now she will go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Just you wait, sometime in the future someone will dig this thread up and ask you for the tension figures . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyAussie Report post Posted June 25, 2018 3 hours ago, dikman said: Just you wait, sometime in the future someone will dig this thread up and ask you for the tension figures . @dikman You're probably right and I will get to it, but for now I have 3 Chinese customers flying in next month that I have to make 4 male cross body bags for and I have not even patterned them out yet. They have been good customers previously and have paid for the croc already so its just gotta happen. Along with a few other bags I have to get done this week and way tooooo many bloody belts to even think about as well. You shore you don't need a workin holiday? BTW I think I might have to disappear off LW for a bit. Best wishes to you and all. Brian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintock Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Got a little scale on the "weigh". Pretty sure the tensions are around 5-6 hammers but we'll see. Being swamped in leatherwork isn't really a bad thing. At least you're inside. Being swamped in dirt work is a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted June 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Clintock said: Being swamped in dirt work is a different story. 'Bout ONE MORE rain, and you can bring your equipment up here and PUSH WATER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clintock Report post Posted June 25, 2018 @JLSleather same way down here in south Alabama. At least you don't have heat index of 112° f today. Sweat pooling in yer boots. Have I mentioned it's hot?? Look there at demopolis. Swear I seen a lizard toting a leaf fer shade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted June 25, 2018 NO HEAT index. My little girl irritated she can't swim cuz the water TOO COLD. Meanwhile.. you southern boys must sit in the shade on day like this comin' up with some new "sayin's" ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Pity we're not nearer, Brian, I'd be only too happy to help out. Sounds like some long days ahead for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted June 25, 2018 I think we can say that this topic has been explained to death; by dangling hammers and fish scales. So, I am closing it. If Clintock wants it reopened, he can PM me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
