Yet another which machine to buy topic

[katit]

Visited local Nick-O store. They have used 206RB-5 with "Tokyo, Japan" on badge, I guess they made some of those in Japan? Looks very decent cosmetically (no scratches on machine, like new) .. They want $1000 and it's got older 1/2hp servo

[Uwe]

You should totally buy a machine from a local store if you can. They'll be happy to provide service and parts. The early Consew 206RB-5 and previous 206RB-1/2/3/4 models were Seiko machines. Later, Consew quietly switched the 206RB-5 to a Chinese clone supplier.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Uwe

[katit]

19 minutes ago, Uwe said:

You should totally buy a machine from a local store if you can. They'll be happy to provide service and parts. The early Consew 206RB-5 and previous 206RB-1/2/3/4 models were Seiko machines. Later, Consew quietly switched the 206RB-5 to a Chinese clone supplier.

Do you know approximately what time 206RB-5 manufacture started? Just trying to estimate age..

Also, I asked to show how slow machine can go and also motor controllable - it had trouble starting through thick fabric on lowest speeds because of lack of torque. I assume speed reducer still needed. Or is there newer servo motors which will start and go slow through automotive leather? I know if I go with this machine some upgrade will be needed, just not sure what is the best way

[katit]

Another question about 206RB

On this video around 1:16 he talks about stich len and reverse. I wonder how people deal with issue of non-equal reverse stitches? I guess you adjust machine for spefic stitch size so they equal in reverse?

 

[brmax]

A 2” pulley or 50mm on the servo is needed for the best slow speed “ without a reducer setup”. 

Some now days come with a 60mm and list no smaller option. Older models I have and as many others pursued this option just for this slow speed advantage.  As you know it also adds a small amount of torque. 

I think its best if you can see the machine perform through some stitch selections prior to purchase. In some textiles we can use more stitch if wanted but vinyl and leather I think we need a bit more spacing between holes. 

Everyones different in their projects, 5 or 7 stitches per inch is ok for me. But this is totaly dependent on project.

 

Good day

Floyd

[AdamPCain]

2 hours ago, katit said:

Another question about 206RB

On this video around 1:16 he talks about stich len and reverse. I wonder how people deal with issue of non-equal reverse stitches? I guess you adjust machine for spefic stitch size so they equal in reverse?

 

It needs to be timed

[katit]

1 hour ago, AdamPCain said:

It needs to be timed

Adam,

I'm sorry not sure I understand. Do you mean machine in video need to be timed/wrongly setup? Or do you mean that it's correct that for each stich size reverse stitch size need to be adjusted?

[dikman]

If the machine is adjusted correctly the reverse stitch will always be correct regardless of the stitch length selected.

[katit]

On ‎7‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 2:32 PM, Uwe said:

You should totally buy a machine from a local store if you can. They'll be happy to provide service and parts. The early Consew 206RB-5 and previous 206RB-1/2/3/4 models were Seiko machines. Later, Consew quietly switched the 206RB-5 to a Chinese clone supplier.

Well.. It's been a while but I still don't have a machine. They never come through to my emails, now I can't even get a hold of Nick. That machine sold now

Home improvements got me sidetracked from hobbies, now I'm back.

 

[katit]

Found 2 more machines. Both with table/servo motor.

Consew 206RB-5

Pfaff 1245

Price difference is negligible. Both in about the same condition. Both China made (is PFAFF made in china??) I don't know exact pfaff model and I wonder why it doesn't have logo on machine?

Any of those look good or still should look for something not made in China?