Is there an attachement for CB4500 for finishing leather edges?

[johnv474]

Are you looking for a better result or just to save money?  

The leather looks scorched. 

You have spent this thread trying to figure out how to not spend money.  Learning to burnish or skive is nearly free.

In the alternative, you can bind by hand and sew with your machine, or by hand, with any thickness of leather you like.  

Or just use one of the many nearly free edge paints or treatments, or make your own.

[RusticLeatherShop]

no binding by Hand. For what I did the expensive machine buy? Not to do anything by Hand whatsoever.

Edge paint and threathments are not availlable over here in Southamerica.

I feel even the Wood burhishing Attachements to a drill on Amazon will not do the trick.

Still looking for an leather edge finish solution.

[chrisash]

Why o Why do you go against all the experts on here, your original question was about price for making a turned edge or rolled edge, the price reflects the low volume of people wanting the item so stock hangs around for slow movement and costs the shop nearly dead money

You burning idea with the grinder gives the worst finish i have seen and wastes a good grinding disk which also wont last long as noted above

I would suggest you follow Nigel Armitage video's on YouTube which cover all your questions and is a master at helping all with his free lessons

[Matt S]

4 hours ago, RusticLeatherShop said:

no binding by Hand. For what I did the expensive machine buy? Not to do anything by Hand whatsoever.

Edge paint and threathments are not availlable over here in Southamerica.

I feel even the Wood burhishing Attachements to a drill on Amazon will not do the trick.

Still looking for an leather edge finish solution.

I'd guess you bought that sewing machine for sewing thick leather. If you wanted a machine with cheap off-the-shelf binding attachments maybe you should have bought something else. Most users of 441-type machines don't use them for binding but a lack of a binding attachment for your machine doesn't mean you can't bind leather with it. Binding attachments are essentially one-trick ponies -- one type of fold, one type of tape, one size of material per binder. As you've found the more specialist the binder the more expensive so most small workshops simply don't have an attachment for every job. In fact the setup time involved in using a binder means that for short runs it's often quicker and easier to bind manually and then sew it with the machine. I'm curious, how are you going to layout, cut, punch, glue, polish, set rivets with a sewing machine if you don't want to do anything by hand?

You can use normal cheap art-shop acrylic paint for edges. Normally you need to thin it with a little water to get it to soak in.

You have been advised by several people (including myself) sources of good quality off-the-shelf burnishing attachments, and how to make one yourself or have one made by a local craftsman. Why are you ignoring valuable advice you're being given for free?

If you're having trouble with a burnishing machine why don't you burnish by hand until you can get the machine burnishing sorted? It really doesn't take very long.

[chrisash]

Also if you follow how to skive with a knife on Youtube you can reduce all the area's you sew your edges down to a more manageable size so your not working with such large thicknesses at the edges

[RusticLeatherShop]

4 hours ago, chrisash said:

Why o Why do you go against all the experts on here

Nothing as such as I am "against all the experts on here".

Dont jump on the bandwagon some try to send on the trip to mob me.

Yes I bought the machin as a replacement for rivets, and such stuff.

So acryllic Wood or iron paint will do it? I dont trust that since it can crack and peel in my experience. Paint with a brush? good receipe to mess up the rest of the work by smearing paint all over the dear Piece. Taping the rest of the Piece as in automotive tape painting, not gonna do it.

I bought the machine for quick and easy work.

[Matt S]

43 minutes ago, RusticLeatherShop said:

Nothing as such as I am "against all the experts on here".

Dont jump on the bandwagon some try to send on the trip to mob me.

Yes I bought the machin as a replacement for rivets, and such stuff.

So acryllic Wood or iron paint will do it? I dont trust that since it can crack and peel in my experience. Paint with a brush? good receipe to mess up the rest of the work by smearing paint all over the dear Piece. Taping the rest of the Piece as in automotive tape painting, not gonna do it.

I bought the machine for quick and easy work.

Acrylic paint as in you might use to paint a picture with. You can get a tube for $1 in whatever colour you want. Edge paints last just fine if properly applied, I've got items in daily use over 1 year old that are just fine. I haven't tried the stuff from the art shop for that long (just the proper stuff). What have you tried?

As to making a mess, there's lot of us manage not to. Maybe ask people how they do it? No painter's tape here, or streaks across the leather.

Have you tried burnishing an edge by hand using a piece of wood, bone or plastic? What happened? Did it turn out as you wanted? If not how did you try to improve it? Have you looked into making or having made a wooden burnisher attachment like people have suggested, or buying one of the specific burnishers people have suggested? If you can't do the basics a sewing machine isn't going to magically make you good or fast at leatherwork. That requires proper practice and experience.

I find your use of the "flogging a dead horse" animation ironic. Maybe it's not so much a bandwagon as a popular movement.

[garypl]

It’s very easy to apply a clean coat of edge paint.  Here are some examples of test pieces I did recently - no paint dripping down the surface of the leather.

Use good acrylic paint, sand between coats and take your time.  I have an eyeglass case I have been using daily for over a year, in and out of my back pocket, and I see no appreciable wear on the edge paint.

Gary

 

 

[RusticLeatherShop]

That would be an possibility. Using paint as for use in Aquarella painting on paper.

That should be availlable here.

that paint above Looks nice.

[garypl]

2 hours ago, RusticLeatherShop said:

That would be an possibility. Using paint as for use in Aquarella painting on paper.

That should be availlable here.

that paint above Looks nice.

Try buying some acrylic paint and practice on some scrap - you may be pleasantly surprised at the results!

Gary