Members krominix Posted August 28, 2018 Members Report Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, RusticLeatherShop said: Thats done with an binding Attachement to the machine. Or it's glued on with some sort of rubber edge. I have such an chair with rubber glued on. It falls off and peels off after about 1 month. Your experience with the chair is most likely accurate but as far as the wallet in question your are incorrect. It as a water based edge paint. When applied properly (heat, sand, heat, sand, heat again) in layers and sealed with wax it is a very durable edge that will last many years. Reader beware, there is a lot of false info in this thread. Quote Trial and Error
Members RusticLeatherShop Posted August 28, 2018 Members Report Posted August 28, 2018 For leather "many years" is not good enough since a peeled off edge is uggly. I would not trust any paint as edge material. Most likely if will crack and fall off within 1 month. Indeed those look like an binder has done it's work there. Quote
NVLeatherWorx Posted August 28, 2018 Report Posted August 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, krominix said: Your experience with the chair is most likely accurate but as far as the wallet in question your are incorrect. It as a water based edge paint. When applied properly (heat, sand, heat, sand, heat again) in layers and sealed with wax it is a very durable edge that will last many years. Reader beware, there is a lot of false info in this thread. So, with your responses so far on this topic one would think that you are the person behind the work being talked about. Is that the case? If so, nice work and it is truly nice. If not, then please explain to us how you know that, for instance, the stitching is all done by hand. I say this because those stitching lines, with that standard machine thread, do not look like they are hand stitched, and that is why others have asked that question. So, if you have more information on this item and would like to help everyone understand it better don't hold back on it. And, on another note. I would be very careful making a statement of: Reader beware, there is a lot of false info in this thread. I say this because you have several very experienced professional leather craftsmen reading the threads throughout this forum and they do occasionally offer some information which is based on years of experience and making a statement of that type is quite offensive to those of us who are not new to this trade. Just be careful and tread lightly is always a good policy. Quote Richard Hardie R. P. Hardie Leather Co. R. P. Hardie Leather Co. - OnlineR. P. Hardie Leather Co on Facebook
Members krominix Posted August 28, 2018 Members Report Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, RusticLeatherShop said: For leather "many years" is not good enough since a peeled off edge is uggly. I would not trust any paint as edge material. Most likely if will crack and fall off within 1 month. Indeed those look like an binder has done it's work there. Even your standard burning edge needs to be touched up from time to time from abrasion. I’m not sure what you are getting at here. It seems to me that you zero experience with how to properly paint an edge with high quality edge paint or the process that it goes into said edge. Wallets with this kind of edge when done by a crafter who knows how to do it right will last the life of the wallet. An ocasional beeswax buff may help if An issue is to arise although unlikely. You wouldn’t put an edge like this on a holster or sheath, but for a wallet or a purse it is a viable option on chrome tanned leathers since you cannot burnish then properly. Quote Trial and Error
Members RusticLeatherShop Posted August 28, 2018 Members Report Posted August 28, 2018 The blue wallet is definatelly finished with an edge binding attachment with an sewing machine. Both are done with an sewing machine (the sligthly Offset thread line is tipical of an leather needle). It's #69 or #138 thread (rather #69). The orange wallets I can not see as clear so I cant know for sure how the edge is done. But as well sewn with an machine. Nice work though! ... but painted edges?! maaah! Not for me. Quote
Members krominix Posted August 29, 2018 Members Report Posted August 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, NVLeatherWorx said: So, with your responses so far on this topic one would think that you are the person behind the work being talked about. Is that the case? If so, nice work and it is truly nice. If not, then please explain to us how you know that, for instance, the stitching is all done by hand. I say this because those stitching lines, with that standard machine thread, do not look like they are hand stitched, and that is why others have asked that question. So, if you have more information on this item and would like to help everyone understand it better don't hold back on it. And, on another note. I would be very careful making a statement of: Reader beware, there is a lot of false info in this thread. I say this because you have several very experienced professional leather craftsmen reading the threads throughout this forum and they do occasionally offer some information which is based on years of experience and making a statement of that type is quite offensive to those of us who are not new to this trade. Just be careful and tread lightly is always a good policy. This is not my work, although the crafter behind it is a very nice gentlemen who I have spoken with in the past. He sells pricking irons and fine linen sewing thread. I'm actually not certain why its is so unbelievable by some of you that its sewn by hand. There are tons of crafters out there that can produce a saddle stitch that looks like that. I have explained it a couple times earlier in the thread. Its not a secret really, its just not a discipline that is covered on this board frequently. It is an edge paint, no way to know which one he uses unless you ask him. Some of the most popular brands are Fenice, Vernis, Stahl, and Uniters. I have used all of them and they all work well. Ill explain again - You must make sure your edge is perfectly flush - no glue or anything on it. You apply a coat of said paint, and allow it to dry. You then heat the paint on very high heat with an iron - the most popular iron is the Regad machine aka the Filetuese that is made in France. The heating allows it to properly adhere to the leather. After heating you sand on high grit 320, 400, 600, 800 then you apply another coat, allow to dry, heat, sand, repeat until you have an edge that you are comfortable with. No need to be offended. I just wanted to point out that a lot of members came on here making statements as if they were factual when they were not. This holds back new crafters who are trying to gain a knowledge in a new discipline of the craft. Quote Trial and Error
Members krominix Posted August 29, 2018 Members Report Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, RusticLeatherShop said: The blue wallet is definatelly finished with an edge binding attachment with an sewing machine. Both are done with an sewing machine (the sligthly Offset thread line is tipical of an leather needle). It's #69 or #138 thread (rather #69). The orange wallets I can not see as clear so I cant know for sure how the edge is done. But as well sewn with an machine. Incorrect. Quote Trial and Error
Members RusticLeatherShop Posted August 29, 2018 Members Report Posted August 29, 2018 ..sounds like the crafter spent a week on that 1000$ wallet. If he spends lots of time and dedication sure it's an bespoke wallet for around 1000$ sold to Hollywood actors or Wallstreet banksters. Quote
Members thefanninator Posted August 29, 2018 Members Report Posted August 29, 2018 I posted the link to his Instagram account. Here it is again: https://www.instagram.com/zj.handwork/ He's got all kinds of edge photographs - burnished, folded and some painted. Lots of photographs of his pricking irons too. You can find the prices for his tools and wallets on his website. http://purelyhandwork.ayh688.com/ Quote http://www.instagram.com/fannintexas/
bikermutt07 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, thefanninator said: I posted the link to his Instagram account. Here it is again: https://www.instagram.com/zj.handwork/ He's got all kinds of edge photographs - burnished, folded and some painted. Lots of photographs of his pricking irons too. You can find the prices for his tools and wallets on his website. http://purelyhandwork.ayh688.com/ Thanks for posting that. I checked the site and I gotta say, looks like hand stitching to me. And, I'll also say, I wouldn't bat an eye at paying his asking price on those wallets. They are truly something for me to aspire towards. Just perfect looking. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
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