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Hello,

You can go to the website of Adler. The have Instructionmanuals for a lot of theIer machines. Also the 69. In those manual you can see how to thread the machine and also the parts are show. 

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22 minutes ago, Ski said:

I bought what looks like the same machine a week ago.  My first industrial!  Exciting right?

Yes it is! It sure opens up the possibilities :)

20 minutes ago, bemavu said:

Hello,

You can go to the website of Adler. The have Instructionmanuals for a lot of theIer machines. Also the 69. In those manual you can see how to thread the machine and also the parts are show. 

Thanks! I downloaded and printed all the manuals. Very helpful to have. That is one reason I bought an Adler machine, the support is good!

Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine

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21 hours ago, arz said:

It worked great when I tested it but I am already running into problems

??? Can you say what problems???

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9 minutes ago, jimi said:

??? Can you say what problems???

Several :) I am working at the moment, but can write more details later. I think some of my problems are operator error. I am really new to a sewing machine!

I'm using Serafil M20 thread top and bottom and a 134-35 LR 140 needle. Top stitch looks good, knot is showing on bottom. So I think I need more top tension.

Other things:

1. Sometimes when I go in reverse and then back to forward stitch the needle will hit the needle plate (broke a needle one time because of this)
2. The needle sometimes pierces the thread (I think I was not holding the thread back tight enough)
3. The reverse stitch length is twice as long as forward. I did find and read the post about adjusting the reverse stitch. Will try to adjust it.
4. I could not pull the thread out once I finished a stitch and lifted the foot. I learned I have to rotate the hand wheel a bit. Also  important to make sure the stitch is completed. I do have a needle position servo (Jack JK563-1A). The needle stops in the down position.

A few others things. But...most are just things that were my fault and not the machine. I ordered some parts and a drop down guide. We'll get it :) I will post more questions later if I can't figure it out. Thanks!

Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine

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Nº3 Like you said, after you have adjusted the back stitch length problem you might find nº 1 and 2 fixed?? On the jack servo needle positioner when you finish in the down position, if you kick back the heel of the pedal then the needle should come to top position. I don´t know the specs of your machine but it sounds like you are at the limit with m20/140, so any higher possibly might not work? 

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10 minutes ago, jimi said:

Nº3 Like you said, after you have adjusted the back stitch length problem you might find nº 1 and 2 fixed?? On the jack servo needle positioner when you finish in the down position, if you kick back the heel of the pedal then the needle should come to top position. I don´t know the specs of your machine but it sounds like you are at the limit with m20/140, so any higher possibly might not work? 

Thanks! You might be right about point 3...Hmmm.

The lady I bought it from was using up to size M10 on top! I saw her do it. She was using up to 150 needles and it is set for the longer needle (134-35). Probably not a good idea to run such thick threads though. Seems strange but she like it for thicker threads better than her 269...

M20 is running good. Clearance in the needle plate, hook etc, are fine to my eye. I think it has to do with how you set a machine up. But I have heard that is as large as you should go. I have no intention of running thicker threads than that.

Another thing...I happy with how much thread the bobbin holds. For us making purses/wallets the narrow arm is worth it.

Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine

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Size 150 needles are perfect for #138 thread in leather!

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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1 hour ago, Wizcrafts said:

Size 150 needles are perfect for #138 thread in leather!

Good to know! At the moment Serafil M20 (#138) with a 140 needle is working nicely. However if I use a harder vegtan or English Bridle...the 150 size might very well be better. I can't find a #23 needle. I think a 150 needle is a #24?

My understanding with needles is it depends on the leather and thread combo I use.

Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine

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4 hours ago, arz said:

Good to know! At the moment Serafil M20 (#138) with a 140 needle is working nicely. However if I use a harder vegtan or English Bridle...the 150 size might very well be better. I can't find a #23 needle. I think a 150 needle is a #24?

My understanding with needles is it depends on the leather and thread combo I use.

Negatory Red Rider. A #150 needle is about equal to a #22.5. It lies between a #22 and a #23 in diameter.

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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7 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Negatory Red Rider. A #150 needle is about equal to a #22.5. It lies between a #22 and a #23 in diameter.

Thanks! :)

Machines in use: Ellegi (Atom GL12 ) skiving machine, Durkopp Adler 69-373 sewing machine

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