oops I did it again as the song goes - Singer 29Kxx

[plinkercases]

 I need to stop looking at Kijiji.

This popped up for $250 CDN and was used for years by an older lady who was a leather worker when she was younger and she held on to it. It went to her caregiver whose son posted it for sale. He said he was glad to sell it to someone who would actually use it and not put plants on it.

Needs some clean up but was operating when she stopped using it and it has just sat collecting dust and rust. Another old machine with a story behind it. I like that idea. Just like my others... well one other doesn't have an oldie thyme story just a lucky findy story.

I will take the old motor monkey business off and I have a signer treadle set that I can us to convers it back to treadle. The I will need to learn what the old cobbler up the street used to call the "click click"

Any help again with the xx part of 29Kxx?

NOW I stop...... no more room in this shop....

[dikman]

Nice one! Trouble is it's pretty hard to stop when a bargain comes along.

[shoepatcher]

What is the model number of the machine  29K what?  It is an early 29K  The motorized part is a little Mickey Mouse.  I need the model number to help on parts.

glenn

[plinkercases]

shoepatcher

I will have possession Friday and can look for the model number and thanks fro the offer of help.

And yes the motor rig is coming off!

[plinkercases]

I picked up the machine and have had a look at it.

SO far:

• 29K2 - with original manual!!! how cool - 1920 dated
• will take the motor off and use another treadle to try to rebuild it to foot power
• somehow the top drive shaft seems to have been lengthened to accept the new pull added with the motor rig
• original top pulley is chipped but I am sure would still hold the belt - I will use the larger pulley track which seems fine
• runs absolutely smooth and quiet and there is still oil where there should be
• haven't tried to sew as I down have the threading rod to get down the head to the need and the bobbin winder needs a new rubber... needle is still in it and straight!!!
• there was still a loaded bobbin in it so its as if she just stopped using it one day
• their seems to be a mystery tensioner (broken) threaded into the front of the head...not needed as far as I can see unless for the winder? but cant see how that would work
• Seems to have all other screws. knobs, wing nuts, springs, guides etc.
• came with 3 shuttle hooks and the one installed had a make shift metal band as a replacement for the missing "wall section" - other 2 look fine but I would know if they were worn out or not - not sure they why they would not have been used instead of the broken one... unless they are worn out functionally and the broken one still hooked
• came with an extra shuttle carrier and the drive pinion look to have all its teeth so to speak
• came with 9 bobbins but are rusty and easy enough to get new
• has a metal repair on the very end of the arm so it may have taken a header some where in its life...haven't we all?
• I think I need for function
  • new top tension disc and spring
  • new winder rubber
  • new needles (came with a pill bottle full and labelled - "old patcher needles"... so are the old needle from the patcher or needles for the old patcher? rusty anyhow and better to replace with new
• wait to seeif it sew then perhaps
  • new shuttle hook and carrier and drive pinion assembly
• For aesthetics
  • noting!! - I am just going to clean some of the grim off and perhaps polish up some of the bits that used to be shinny and leave it as is... nothing wrong with it showing its age and signs of loving use.

 

[catskin]

NO, the shaft is not extended it is that way for if or when you put the flywheel from the front to the side as some do.  And for the shuttle area it is likely worn so as to break the shuttle as that one is.  I have seen them that way.  And it seems the opinion on this forum is that gears for the shuttle drive are no longer possible to get in good condition.  Sorry to be giving negative opinions but from my experience and reading this site that seems to be the way it is.

[Constabulary]

try washing soda solution for cleaning of the grime but as always be careful with the decals.

[plinkercases]

catskin - thanks for the observations and experience. I can get the pinions on ebay.ca or amazon.ca if they are needed. as for the shuttle enclosure I believe if I get some good pictures and someone with an intact one can determine what and where the issue is I can rebuild the material with JB weld and a dremmel toll butt thanks the heads up.

constabulary - yes I was going to ask/look around for something that can de-grim but mild enough not to destroy the decals. As a Canadian I am not familiar with the term soda wash unless you mean a baking soda mixture? is there a brand name?

Still excited about the old girl.

 

[Constabulary]

29 minutes ago, plinkercases said:

catskin - thanks for the observations and experience. I can get the pinions on ebay.ca or amazon.ca if they are needed. as for the shuttle enclosure I believe if I get some good pictures and someone with an intact one can determine what and where the issue is I can rebuild the material with JB weld and a dremmel toll butt thanks the heads up.

constabulary - yes I was going to ask/look around for something that can de-grim but mild enough not to destroy the decals. As a Canadian I am not familiar with the term soda wash unless you mean a baking soda mixture? is there a brand name?

Still excited about the old girl.

 

 

Sorry but the pinions you would need are not / no longer available as after market parts, the pinions you find on Ebay + so on are for the later model 29K71 - 29K73 but do not fit the the early 29K series (and sometimes they don´t even fit the later machines very well) There were at least 3 different type of pinions for the 29K series - your machines is one of the oldest. Not many parts of the "modern" 29K71 are compatible with your machine - there are a few but not many.

Before you order spare parts compare the numbers with the parts list. I guess you already downloaded it, right?

You don´t have washing soda (not baking soda) in Canada? Like Arm & Hammer? I´m sure you have that stuff.

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Constabulary

[plinkercases]

constabulary - I have not gotten to downloading the parts list and I am not actually worried about the gears right now - would need to see how it sews I suspect.

I have determined I need to rebuild some of the casting around the bobbin shuttle area as suggested by catskin.

As for appropriate parts I am hoping shoepatcher here or other machine rebuild gurus can help there before I commit to buying anything "wrong".

Thanks for the heads up though.