taydiggz Report post Posted November 14, 2018 Please keep in mind that this thing is only 1.75” diameter and over 4 feet long! How did they do it? It also has the cut out for the tube that intersects the handle near the end. The leather wraps around without any other stitchss on the opposite side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheilajeanne Report post Posted November 14, 2018 I would guess they slid it on to the handle before the tube was inserted. How they would then secure the tube, I don't know. It's possible the tube self-locks as soon as it's inserted. Without seeing the whole setup from a distance, I can only guess! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 If I were to do this to a similar railing already constructed, I would first make the pattern which is simple enough. Then I would prefer punch my holes for the seam at a 45 ish degree angle. I would then stitch it together. The angled holes would allow use of straight needles. Alternatively, I might use curved needles to stitch the seam. Then pound the seam with a flat faced smooth hammer to flatten it out. That's how I would do it lol. There is Probably a better way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisash Report post Posted November 14, 2018 There is a double layer each side of the seam Basically sew the two inners to the outer doing the border at the same time. Then sew the inner two parts together when on the pipe and stick the outer to it at the seam hiding the inner seam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodneywt1180b Report post Posted November 14, 2018 I haven't tried that type of stitch on my canes. Looks like it might be worth experimenting with. I like the look. If you don't glue the area under the stitching down you will have enough room to work your needles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taydiggz Report post Posted November 15, 2018 So essentially it was hand stitched on the tube? Its possible that the intersection tube was threaded and screwed on after the fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted November 15, 2018 Hmm, looking again it looks machine stitched maybe. And the hole for the crossbar looks like an afterthought as the stitching doesn't appear to stop short like it should. Looks like they made a sleeve for the handle then cut the hole afterwards. Maybe camera angle is messing with me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted November 15, 2018 What you say could be right but I think pre-punched and hand sewn. I think the stitch at the hole goes around the edge Also I agree, leather tube sewn and fitted and cross metal tube fitted in thru a pre-cut hole after leather piece fitted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodneywt1180b Report post Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stetson912 said: Hmm, looking again it looks machine stitched maybe. And the hole for the crossbar looks like an afterthought as the stitching doesn't appear to stop short like it should. Looks like they made a sleeve for the handle then cut the hole afterwards. Maybe camera angle is messing with me? I don't think they would hand sew it. Takes too long and long straight runs are what machines do best. Here's my thoughts. I think Stetson912 is on the right track. Machine stitch the panel flat with the folded edges at the seam. It would be easy to leave long tails at the hole location to tie the ends off after the hole is cut. The hole wasn't pre-punched because the shape needing to be cut isn't a perfect half circle. It's possible it wasn't cost effective to make a die the correct shape. It's also a detail that no one but a leather worker would notice or really care about (sacrilege, I know). Cutting after the fact also ensures good alignment. That explains what we can see. I think the leather was stitched and glued on by hand using something along the lines of a quick and dirty ladder stitch . It wouldn't show with the edges butted up against each other so it doesn't need to be pretty, it doesn't even need to be all that strong (more sacrilege). It may be a high wear location but it's not a high stress location. The glue is doing most of the work. The stitching is just keeping the edges from separating. There's also a tiny bit of white showing at the top where the edges meet. I think it's more than where they tied it off. I think there's a third line of stitches there. Edited November 15, 2018 by rodneywt1180b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenwood Report post Posted November 16, 2018 A pic from the back of the handle may provide a clue or maybe the answer. Good puzzle Layo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted November 16, 2018 The hole cut looks a bit rough and jagged too, as if done after the fact. I love all the different thoughts and ideas and possibilities everyone comes up with. Several of them would work too. Just goes to show, more n one way to dress a salad... More n one way to skin your nose... No that's not it.... well, you get my drift eh? Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites