Black dye

[TLP]

Have a belt that I need to dye a dark black,  My mentor was not sure what I should use having never used black.  any suggestions would be appreciated

 

[YinTx]

Fiebeng's Black Pro Oil dye worked well for me in the past.  Unless you like to buff and buff and buff, stay away from the USMC Black that Fiebeng's sells.

YinTx

[ScoobyNewbie]

So the alcohol fieblings needs more buffing than the produce oil based.

[TxLeather]

Agree. USMC Black is a PITA.

Fiebeng's Black Pro Oil is ok.

[YinTx]

On 12/3/2018 at 9:07 PM, ScoobyNewbie said:

So the alcohol fieblings needs more buffing than the produce oil based.

I think they are both alcohol based, but the "Pro" or "Oil" dyes are a different beasts.  The USMC Black is a pigment dye, with a lot of pigment, so it will come off for a long time with all the buffing.  The "Pro" dye seems to bind and not buff off very much, which is nice.

I have used the Eco Flo black dye with luck in the past, no rub off, but that is different to apply and many aren't able to get it down pat.

YinTx

[GatoGordo]

I use Angelus dyes and have had great success with their jet black leather dye.

[YinTx]

5 minutes ago, GatoGordo said:

I use Angelus dyes and have had great success with their jet black leather dye.

I have used Angelus dyes, and I like the colors that I get - the winetone is one of  my favorites.  However, I do get a ton of rub off with them as well.  My experience, anyhow.

YinTx

[Eddie Q]

Well, for what it's worth, here's my experience ....I've used both Fiebing's pro oil dye and USMC black on different types of leather and I prefer the USMC black, amidst other fine folks recommendations. I do reduce it with alcohol and oil after some buffing. I have a wallet I've carrying for the last four years with no rub off at all ! I also believe the quality of leather has a lot to do with dye absorption and something not many bring up is black resolene diluted 50/50 with water, I'm  true believer in it.  There's also a post somewhere in this site about "vinagroon"(making and neutralizing) I've also used it successfully, but it has more of a metallic greyish black finish which I like a lot too !!

  Good luck !!!

[YinTx]

2 hours ago, Eddie Q said:

I do reduce it with alcohol and oil after some buffing.

This is the way to use it.  Reduced, with a lot of buffing!  After a seal, you should expect no rub off.  It is a beautiful dark black, but a bit of work to get there.

I've used vinagaroon as well, sometimes with luck, and a couple of times ruined the piece with too much baking soda neutralizer.  This didn't show up until a year or so after use.  I just stick with the dye now to avoid the risk.  I did like the color I got with the 'roon tho.

I'll be curious to see what you end up using, and how it works for you, @TLP.

YinTx

[OnePivot]

You dont have to neutralize vinegaroon. You can just rinse it significantly and let it dry. I like vinegaroon because it absolutely unconditionally will not rub off, ever.