Sole stitcher that’ll do double row stitching!

[Matt S]

The distance between each stitch line visibly varies in that photo. Looks like it's a "do it twice" job to me too.

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

On 4/16/2019 at 6:38 AM, arashikage said:

My family has been in shoe repair for over 40 years and I have never seen a double needle outsoler. You typical outsoler does have a guide on it so you can adjust where the stitch is going to hit the welt. They most likely have a guard set at different depths and stitch it twice. If you look at the bottom right side of the pic the stitches are closer together. That wouldn't happen on a double needle.

Ariat is one of the boot companies to make this double row popular over the past few years. But I can't find if they just double stitch it or not.

That’s what I was looking for… The standard old-school stitcher can do it then! Will just need to adjust the guide!That’s what I was looking for… The standard old-school stitcher can do it then! Will just need to adjust the guide!

[mikesc]

That’s what I was looking for

But it was obvious from the first photos that you posted that it wasn't done with a double needle stitcher ( twin needle stitchers do not stitch lines that converge ) unless they are really badly broken..

As I used to say to art students when teaching Art* ( in as much as one can teach art ) at University many decades ago..there is "looking" and there is "seeing"..
Quit "looking" ..learn to "see" what is in front of you.."looking" is easy.."seeing" sometimes takes more effort..

Same applies to Hearing, Feeling etc etc ..

*Yes..some of them used to say "it" ( art ) with an audible capitol A..

Edited April 30, 2019 by mikesc

[dikman]

"capitol A.." You missed that one, Mike. 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself as you are usually very meticulous when it comes to posting.

[mikesc]

I wasn't sure to be sure*, the words "capitol" and capital" exist in both French and English, and sometimes the "O" is used in French where the "A" would be used in English, and vice versa..My speelchucker underlines every single word I type ..French system and keyboard, ( Linux ) set for French and British English..depending upon the software I'm using some words do not get underlined, when they should, and others do, when they should not...When it is late ( like now ) and the machine and the software ( FF 51 ) start "second guessing me" , sometimes I "correct" and then "re-correct", and then re-re-correct" and then think..Ahhh Crap..I can't remember ( I don't get to use much English these days ) and go back to watching TV and youtube and French news , and a movie..nope... actually it is GOT se8 03 in English..Wow is it ever dark in there !! ) simultaneously on the TV and my 5 other monitors ( here not counting the TV )..Some typos slide by and then slide by again, sometimes I have to edit a post 5 or 6 times..and there'll still be typos, that I won't notice..

Life is too short ;)

Anyway, what are you doing posting from the beach ? ..hybrid sheep sharks with frikkin lasers patrolling the shore so you can't go dip your toesies or what ?

Enjoy your holiday..( raises glass ..actually poured a leapfrog just to raise it to you there ) ..now relax..If you are watching for my typos, you'll pass up your entire holiday there'll be so many :)

Cheers :)

*the Irish reason.. ;)

ps..Apparently..I can still edit it to read capital A..but that would be cheating..mind that seagull!! ..Do you have seagulls in OZ ?..Ah no...Silly question, belay that..you do , I remember in
"Finding Nemo" the rats with wings had OZ accents..

But..do they have pouches? are they dangerous, are they poisonous, like most of the other fauna..?
Yes..I know..the stereotypes..Hangs head in shame..;)
Would love to visit one day( My Dad did , but to watch Nukes go bang in the desert ..many years ago, Big C got him at 58 years old as a result ) , but distaff side of the family is very leary about what she reads hears about the Arachnida ( Arachnia / Arachnoids ? ) etc ..

Edited April 30, 2019 by mikesc

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

4 hours ago, mikesc said:

 

But it was obvious from the first photos that you posted that it wasn't done with a double needle stitcher ( twin needle stitchers do not stitch lines that converge ) unless they are really badly broken..

As I used to say to art students when teaching Art* ( in as much as one can teach art ) at University many decades ago..there is "looking" and there is "seeing"..
Quit "looking" ..learn to "see" what is in front of you.."looking" is easy.."seeing" sometimes takes more effort..

Same applies to Hearing, Feeling etc etc ..

*Yes..some of them used to say "it" ( art ) with an audible capitol A..

 

I don’t recall asking about a double needle stitcher… I wanted to know if there was an attachment on the old Landis stitcher…I See now that there’s no attachment per se, but an adjustment they can be made to do the second row

[dikman]

Sorry, tt, but that's exactly what you asked in the first post. And as a result we now know that there's no such beastie.

Mike, I'm well aware of your ongoing battle with spell-checkers, I was just rattling your cage.

We may not have any alpha predators on land here but we do have some very nasty spiders and snakes (and drop bears)!

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

11 hours ago, dikman said:

Sorry, tt, but that's exactly what you asked in the first post. And as a result we now know that there's no such beastie.

Mike, I'm well aware of your ongoing battle with spell-checkers, I was just rattling your cage.

We may not have any alpha predators on land here but we do have some very nasty spiders and snakes (and drop bears)!

Again, I asked about “attachments”, and stated I was looking for a sole stitcher...

never mentioned I was looking for a double needle stitcher...

[mikesc]

^^^ We have an expression ( "saying"in English, "dicton" in French ) in France, "posez cette pelle" ..translates as "put down this shovel" ..and quit digging..
Your OP was.. it is still "up there"..First sentence was..

I’m looking for a sole stitcher for making boots, and want to know which ones are capable of doing the popular double stitch?

All machines that do the "popular" double stitch, are twin needle machines.. We all have shoes/ boots that have twin "parallel" ( note that word "parallel", means the stitches neither "diverge" , nor do they get "closer"..your example photo, shows them getting closer..you were not "seeing", happens to all of us.. , but please ..Put the shovel down..: )
There are in fact twin needle "attachments" ( what you asked about in your second sentence ) that can be used to make "parallel" ( note that word again ) lines,...But..Your photo .. Supplied by you..as the example of "what you wanted to achieve" ..did not show "parallel" lines of stitching, they got closer together as they approached the instep and the heel area..

Accept that you "goofed", ( happens to all of us ) ,"looked" but did not "see"..and "move on"..

Put the pelle down..STP :)

Edited May 1, 2019 by mikesc

[dikman]

. Mike, you beat me by 1 minute!